Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science

CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

[Havoc]

No, it was monkeys, I'm sure - typing the library. Do keep up.

[andysandmikesmom]

I like ferrets, one of my cousins has one, and she really gets a kick out of him...

When my son went away to college, I had to tend to his pet rats....up until the time he went away, I could barely get used to those things, but he really enjoyed them...we even had to take them to the vet when they got the sniffles, and I thought the vet would laugh, but he was all business, and it was funny watching him put his stethoscope on the rat, as it was almost as big as the rat...sure enough, he prescribed some sort of meds for the rats...actually the vet educated me quite a bit about having pet rats...

Having to take care of them myself, I eventually got to see how sweet and loving they can be...the vet even mentioned, that my sons rats were so calm and sweet when handled, which showed that my son just did not keep them in their cage, but took them out, gave them a lot of attention, and well, just spoiled them...so having those rats was really quite an experience...

[Mamzelle]

"Do you think your Junior College "education" puts you in any position to debate this with your betters? "

Tedious. Repetitive. Don't think you're in danger of being hired as a speechwriter.

Evos are fond of saying, "you need to go to biology class." Well, you need to go to a rhetoric class. Failing that, how about reading some conservative pundits? Maybe someone with some real freshness and bite, like Ann Coulter, Dalrymple or Mark Steyn? It'd open up your discourse to some wit and pith.

Or visit some threads that don't involve evos. That would do evo-freaks a world of good. You're allowed to visit a thread you haven't been summoned to by IM.

[staytrue]

you've all managed to get Christian dander up. They're tired of putting up with you and are moving. Never wake a sleeping giant.

I glad you finally admitt that creationism is nothing more that a futile attempt to replace science with Christianity.

[RunningWolf]

You know Havoc they have been mocking and ridiculing you about this analogy that corn only produces corn and corn won’t produce a new feature on corn, and cats are not going begat a dog and vice versa.

But remove words corn cat dog, and you have the basic message of evo that is one thing came from another all the way back to the origin, and don’t talk about that.

That’s exactly what evo says.

They say it with PunkEQ, they say it with the nice little drawing of the fish crawling out of the water, they say it with the goofy drawings of semi-flight capable reptile hanging on the trunk of a tree, and they say it with the one tooth thats supposed to be evidence ape-man ancestor and more much more.

The prof /sarc> says it with his DNA. Yep he and his Harvard degree, he's got it all figured out already, hand they keys of infinite knowledge over to the prof.

Or another way they say/infer it. Darwin says put some animals on a remote island, and they are going to respond to the pressures of natural selection, mutation, etc, and eventually you have a whole new animal. Yes eventually that Finch wont be a finch, that iguana might be something else.

A dog is not going to be dog anymore, he just might get up and walk on two legs oh wait.., thats was a chimp ancestor thats right, or somehow that plant life just might become animated, we don't know how but give us some time.

I could go on and this quick-poorly written, I’m tired and need to shave.

Wolf out

[Havoc]

I don't see us getting "nowhere". I see you and your fellow nuts in the science community going ape over the advances for fear you'll be overthrown. I'm not too worried about your particular version of propaganda on that matter. Nor am I the one hoping like heck that the supreme court stops Id because you can't.

[Right Wing Professor]

"Dogs is dogs. Plain, simple, understandable. May make you unhappy but I don't care and don't apologize for it. I'm not going to let you guys get by with intellectual dishonesty no matter how much you whine, simper, complain or insult. That is the bottom line."

So which of the two is a dog? Simple question. Can't imagine why you'd be avoiding it.

[Havoc]

Never said that. But evolution isn't science - it's ideology.
Christianity and Science have no qualms.

[freedumb2003]

Let me tell you about Havoc.

He is an overgrown child who lives with his mommy and daddy (much like a DUer).

He was a "windows specialist" who had his job outsourced to one of the great technology centers of the world -- MEXICO!

He has no college degree (and who knows if he has a HS degree?) and now works in a 7-11 on the swing shift. His manager is even younger than he is. He can't even make assistant night manager.

So when you try to engage him in debate, he resorts to ad hominem attacks (I think there might be a few already).

He also posts on FR as "Philistone." The mods haven't been able to totally prove this, but many of us who have this kneebiter attach himself to our grown-up threads know it is him.

[Havoc]

Thanks Wolf. Go shave, they've gone boring anyway lol

[freedumb2003]

slurpee-slinger, I can "go the distance" with you with all my hands and 3/4 of my brain tied behind my back.

[Right Wing Professor]

I don't see us getting "nowhere".

You can't even tell me what a dog is, and you're lecturing me about science?

[Havoc]

If you're the Republican research division, they should fire you. lol

[staytrue]

you've all managed to get Christian dander up. They're tired of putting up with you and are moving. Never wake a sleeping giant.

Your own words betray you. Christian dander is up. Not viewpoints opposing evolution is up.

CHRISTIAN DANDER IS UP.

YOU JUST ADMITTED CREATIONISM IS ABOUT PUTTING RELIGION IS SCIENCE CLASS.

[Havoc]

I'm sure you can. That's why you've failed to have an impact yet.

[RunningWolf]

Never wake a sleeping giant.

Good point Havoc, Christian's may end up influencing both parties.

Wolf

[Havoc]

Not quite true, I just am not giving you the satisfaction you want. Figure your brain might implode from suspense; but, who knows lol.

[freedumb2003]

"Do you think your Junior College "education" puts you in any position to debate this with your betters? "

Tedious. Repetitive. Don't think you're in danger of being hired as a speechwriter.

IOW: "I don't have a response, so ad hominem will do."

Evos are fond of saying, "you need to go to biology class." Well, you need to go to a rhetoric class. Failing that, how about reading some conservative pundits? Maybe someone with some real freshness and bite, like Ann Coulter, Dalrymple or Mark Steyn? It'd open up your discourse to some wit and pith.

IOW: I really can't argue so I will throw out random attacks. Even funnier is the embedded strawman! Forensic students will see the humor.

Or visit some threads that don't involve evos. That would do evo-freaks a world of good. You're allowed to visit a thread you haven't been summoned to by IM

I invite anyone and everyone to look at my posting history. I only stop by these threads when I see that once again the CRIDers are trying to destroy the USA by atacking its intellect.

[Havoc]

Don't tell me, let me guess, you're another one of those nuts that is scared to death of Ken Ham and Dr.Dino.. lol. Keep looking for relevance, you may find it one day. Till then, you might help your pals defend the corn produces corn = macroevolution line of goofiness. They need all the help they can get - not getting their message out...

[Right Wing Professor]

Well you know why they want to replace rats with lawyers in lab experiments? The grad. students don't get attached to the lawyers. And there are some things even a rat won't do.