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To: IIntense

i have a feeling that this comment has taken the same exaggerated place within joran's recollection as the hitler comment...i think both were said, i think both were said in fun...i doubt she was making a caustic racial comment as joran's recall implies...if i say to one of my friends--"you are working like a slave", it doesn't mean i think that person is black, or conditions are relating to the 1800s, nor does it mean i am a racist...joran has many preconceived notions on america and americans, as do the alpo brothers, and their take on both of these comments shows their own racial and political profiling lurking behind a mask, not natalee's


2,211 posted on 03/09/2006 8:39:30 AM PST by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: nuntukamen

own racial and political profiling lurking behind a mask, not natalee's


Yes! Also, listening to Joran about him and Natalee having casual conversation, IMO, IS NOT SO!

I believe Natalee very quickly realized she was in danger. Things went down quick. 2 to 2.5 hours and he was back home. The gardener says he saw them at 2:30 a.m. so that leaves a 1.5 hour timeframe - Natalee's last hours.


2,213 posted on 03/09/2006 8:57:55 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: nuntukamen
"joran has many preconceived notions on america and americans, as do the alpo brothers, and their take on both of these comments shows their own racial and political profiling lurking behind a mask, not natalee's."



I agree and will take it one step further. I think it shows these comments came from Joran and/or the Kalpoes. Never Natalee. I think these statements were created to sling more mud on Natalee's reputation. Total fabrications.

I think Joran has told the truth on occasion. Like when he admitted to having sex with Natalee as she was coming in and out of consciousness. I believe Natalee was drugged and I doubt there was ever much conversation between Natalee and any of the three.

I think that missing hour or so from the 1:15am time they arrived at Joran's home (but didn't go inside) until they were spotted by the gardener at 2:30am, is the time frame of Natalee's assault and probable death. I think the gardener spotted the suspects as they were trying to dispose of the body.

I think the unidentified person in the backseat of Deepak's car seen by the gardener might have been covering the body. There is a reason the FBI saw blood inside Deepak's car. An injured or dead Natalee had to be there at some point.
2,260 posted on 03/10/2006 12:30:06 AM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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