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To: MillerCreek
You believe the agenda, you believe what you're told, you think that parents who conclude homosexual children "were born that way" or just became homosexual and that it's to be accepted as "natural," and more...and you earlier objected to others having referred to morality when no one has (not me), so, what I think it is is you want to insist your philosophy is, in fact, "more right" than others here.

If there is one thing I am the worlds foremost authority on it is what I believe and think. It would be helpful if you would try to stop reading my mind and telling me what I believe because you have no clue. I have noticed that when anyone argues the issue of homosexuality with you, you make personal attacks. I disagree with your views on what homosexuality is about and of course I present my views (which you term my philosophy). And pray tell exactly what are you presenting if not your views (which is clearly your christian philosophy)? If you want to argue that homosexuality is a choice then be my guest, but you simply can't prove it anymore than a heterosexual can prove his or her heterosexuality is a choice. If there is no homosexual gene then there certainly cannot be a heterosexual gene. You pretend that anyone that disagrees with you is spouting philosophy while you are presenting scientific fact. You have presented no such thing. You have presented the opinions of several scientists and I have no doubt if I was so inclined I could find scientists and psychologists who would claim that it is either genetic or some brain disfunction that has yet to be identified.

420 posted on 01/25/2006 6:06:54 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy

And YOU have presented nothing in relationship to the article.

I realize you have opinions. To be human is to have them. You don't respect mine, however.

Have you READ the article that this thread is based upon?

What is your OPINION about the facts presented in the article that this thread is based upon?

Have you read the full thread?

If you've haven't accomplished both, then there's nothing to "discuss" with you other than to try to match your pugalistic opinions. I'm not interested.


421 posted on 01/25/2006 11:39:05 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Casloy
"If there is no homosexual gene then there certainly cannot be a heterosexual gene. You pretend that anyone that disagrees with you is spouting philosophy while you are presenting scientific fact. You have presented no such thing..."

THE ARTICLE that is quoted here, upon which this thread has developed, presents what it presents. Scientific research into this area of genetics has not identified any "gay gene." The research is extensive and reaches far beyond "opinion" of yours, of homosexuals seeking to insist on nonsense which you mirror in your comments there and previous, on anyone's "opinion" one way or the other.

What are my opinions, however, to you? Why try to target another human being's opinions because they don't parallel yours? Read the article, write to "science" in general, publish your opinions as "research" and then debate the voracity of your argument in a physical world of facts and data.

However, your statement, "If there is no homosexual gene then there certainly cannot be a heterosexual gene," is, in effect, the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA "argument." It relies upon the unsubstantiated assumption that homosexuality is some default sexuality, some "normal" that is parallel and equal to heterosexuality.

Which is, again, not a substantiated assumption and remains one of insistent from generally homosexuals who also insist that they inherited their homosexuality. All of science supports that homosexuality is behavioral, and there is no proof that there is any immutable aspect to homosexuality.

If you don't like or accept that reality, it's no one else's problem. However, writing that others engage in "personal attacks" when you seem to literally be trolling for purposes of arguing your own subjective opinion (as "better" than someone else's) is baseless.

I'd enjoy reading your results if and when you publish your opinions elsewhere, from among medical/scientific research, that substantiates, as you allege, that supports your opinion as to genetics.

Otherwise, I haven't read much here to continue to respond to or about. You accept the homosexual agenda and that induces resentment and anger in you about those who don't, and that's that. You either accept science as an objective issue or you don't accept science.

422 posted on 01/25/2006 11:48:07 PM PST by MillerCreek
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