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The conservatism that I love is one that recognizes that Americans are free to live as they want, as long as nobody else is hurt....As Barry Goldwater said re: gays in the military: I don't care if they are straight, as long as they can shoot straight. Barry Goldwater is my hero.

I am a great admirer of Goldwater myself. But I think he was wrong about this one. Let me put it this way. Those with far more knowledge than me about troop morale are concerned that having gay men in close proximity with straight men might impair troop functioning in war. I have to ask myself who the hell am I to question their expertise. Similarly, who the hell are these law professors at Harvard and Yale to do the same thing. What to they know about living in a foxhole? Hardship for them is when they have to survive for an hour without air conditioning.

I am a Republican and a conservative, but I will not surrender my scientific objectivity on this topic simply because many conservatives believe homosexuality is a sin. Lack of objectivity for purposes of proving one's preconceived notions hurts us all. I can't do it. It's wrong. Make all the moral arguments you want but do not try to twist science to say what it does not.

I tend to take a more neutral position than you do -a simpler position....

Throughout history there has never been social acceptance of homosexual activity as normal nor has homosexual marriage been accommodated etcetera. It is self evident that homosexual activity is a procreative dead end AND I see no history showing me any benefit homosexual activity provides society --IF [it] did benefit society why no evidence of societal embrace, acceptance and or institutionalizing?

If not for homosexual activists attempting to coerce others into accepting the sexual CHOICE they make as normal. and or moral or whatever IT would be easy to ignore what goes on in others bedrooms because it would not be known. Considering that status quo, history etcetera IT is up to the pro-homosexual activist and apologetics to PROVE the theories they allege supporting the agenda they promulgate.

I myself need not prove what is -let them prove what might be... If there are those that want to turn reality on its head THEN bring the data or shut up...

Those with far more knowledge than me about troop morale are concerned that having gay men in close proximity with straight men might impair troop functioning in war. I have to ask myself who the hell am I to question their expertise.

Interesting development in the war in Iraq. Gays who out themselves are not likely to be discharged. Read this. Here's an excerpt.

“What this document shows is that someone within the armed forces who wrote it felt that gays could serve during wartime without disrupting morale and unit cohesion,” Ralls said, in discussing the FORSCOM regulation. “That is a very significant development.”