Posted on 01/14/2006 4:14:10 PM PST by wagglebee
You are confusing conservativism with homosexual activist propaganda AND you are posting homosexal activist propanda.
You appear to be the hero of the homosexual agenda -Goldwater appears to be your attempted excuse. Read the following and take note that there is no Goldwater loophole:
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You hit the nail on the head!!!!
I could care less what these people do behind close doors it's when they try and shove it in my face that I get upset
"Pushers" is indeed the right word to use. They might as well be pushing heroin.
I admire and respect Jim Robinson, but he's no Barry Goldwater.
The Episcopal Church found a gay Gene -- and made him a bishop!
The whole issue of homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).
Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring...
Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life, their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
"It doesn't destroy the argument that people who aren't hurting anyone else ought to be left alone."
Homos may or may not hurt anyone in particular, but they do hurt our Christian society and culture.
I see. If I don't agree with you, I'm a gay troll.
You're a sad little man. It must be painful to be so traumatized by those who disagree with you.
Ironically, Brokeback Mountain, which is in major part pro-gay propaganda, presents a true picture of the deep source of same-sex attraction--the young male's need for affirmation from another male. While the characters handle their same-sex attraction in a destructive manner, the story and the film unambiguously trace their desperate need for one another to the wounds inflicted on them by their fathers. Despite its romanticization of dead-end sentimentality, Brokeback Mountain, in my view, could in the long run lead to opening at least some minds to the truth.
LOL try rereading my post and cease with the straw man arguments.
You're a sad little man. It must be painful to be so traumatized by those who disagree with you.
I would also suggest avoiding doing the very thing you falsely accuse me of -personal attacks.
"It's only genetic insofar as mental illness is genetic."
No, it ain't.
It's a sexual aberration tought to the weak-willed by the enemies of Christianity intent on the willful perversion and ultimate destruction of Western Culture and its people.
Know thy enemy of Christianity. To know him is to defeat him.
Personally, I suspect that there is a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. In some cases, the predisposition is similar to what the writer describes. A boy who isn't particularly masculine when he's young and doesn't receive good reinforcement for trying to be masculine may be vulnerable to being influenced towards homosexuality. In other cases, the predisposition isn't going to be that simple. Scientists certainly haven't proved the existence of this predisposition, but I won't be surprised if they find it someday.
I can remember when similar studies were trying to show a genetic predisposition towards alcoholism. I'm sure that those studies had their problems, but I suspect that the predisposition exists. I never had time to follow all of the studies, but I wouldn't be surprised if they finally found the connection.
I know that there is a "brainless right" contingent that doesn't want to understand the root causes of anything. (They mirror the "brainless left" contingent that thinks half-baked explanations excuse any deviancy.) They are terrified that if we find explanations of why some people have certain problems, then we no longer have any justification for asking those people to take responsibility for their lives. People need to take responsibility for themselves regardless of their predispositions. Those who refuse to think about why some people have certain problems really aren't doing the conservative cause any good.
Getting back to alcoholism, would the discovery of a "drunk gene" make alcoholism any less degrading to the alcoholic? Regardless of whether there's a genetic predisposition, there's nothing normal, natural, or healthy about being an alcoholic. A predisposition isn't an immutable fate. A predisposition can be overcome, and if the behavior is unhealthy, one should try to overcome the behavior. Whether one is an alcoholic because of nature or nurture, overcoming alcoholism is necessary to success. We shouldn't mistreat alcoholics, but their destructive behavior shouldn't have its own set of civil rights.
Getting back to homosexuality, the question is whether homosexual behavior is normal, natural, and healthy. If the behavior is none of those things, then society has the right to set certain limits on those who practice that behavior. I'm not in favor of violating their privacy or persecuting them. If there is a predisposition, whether they choose to overcome that predisposition or whether they follow it is none of my business. However, I don't have a problem with refusing to let them adopt children, serve as role models in organizations like the Boy Scouts, or serve openly in the military.
Bill
Occam's Razor has been dulled by fallacies of logic. Sharpened up, it would tell you the drive to mate in mammals and other sexually reproducing organisms is biologically heterosexual.
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My opinion of Concerned Women of America, like a lot of other groups tied to television evangelism, is probably afflicted with "True Believer Syndrome", an inability to accept alternate explanations.
An ad hominem fallacy you can't use on an atheist like myself...
Homosexuality is wrong,and it should be looked upon as such.
I have not yet seen it mentioned (I may have missed it) but is it possible that there could be a nutritional aspect to the homosexual persuasion?
I suppose it depends on what your idea of *hurting* someone is.
It hurts those who are physically injured by that lifestyle.
It hurts society by tearing down the family and social order.
It hurts the wife and child who catch HIV/AIDS from an unfaithful husband.
It hurts the wife who is sterile from a sexually transmitted disease that is so freely passed around by that lifestyle.
It hurts those who catch HIV/AIDS through tainted blood and blood products.
It hurts society when the healthcare costs for treating these folks for living a lifestyle that spreads these diseases become a burden.
It hurts children who are molested by these people.
It is not a harmless lifestyle. And besides, there would be a lot less resistance to it if they would leave everyone else alone and stop shoving their immoral lifestyle in others faces, demanding special rights because of it.
What do you think of GLSEN and its activities in public schools around the country? Do a FR search if you're not familiar with them. I'm not on my regular computer so I can't post any of my regular links.
But seriously, since you're vocal in your opinion that homosexuality harms no one, you should find out about GLSEN and their goals and activities. Please read up and tell us what you think of them.
I would say it is possible.
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