Sometimes the stupidity here is matched ONLY by the prejudice. Are you trying to see how many lies or usupportable assertions you can cram into one post?
One thing has become crystal clear to me, and that is that there are many freepers who use the mess we have on the border and the resultant problems with illegals here to go off on every conceivable type of rant. I would like to see your "villages.. mostly vacant except for children and old people."
Hateful shriveled up xenophobic rants get the contempt they deserve....., except on FR immigration threads. Here they are "patriotic."
Alleging that someone is "xenophobic" takes far more substantiation than what that person stated in those few sentences.
I agree that there are "entire villages" in Mexico that are comprised of almost and only the elderly and young children. And that their "values" as a people (those villages amplified outward as a culture) are not those of our nation, the U.S., generally.
BUT, in relationship to this issue of sexual predation upon children, look no farther than poverty in any and all cultures that doesn't also provide good parenting. A lot of cultures are responsible for that, even some in the U.S., but the difference is that within the U.S., we DO have a culture that considers sexual predation particularly of children to be entirely and awfully offensive.
I can't speak for other cultures but it hardly defines someone as being "xenophobic" who reports about and responds to conditions in other cultures that are observable.
Thus, you're making a pejorative as to that allegation.
As to the rest you write, about FR and patriotism and such...we're all guests here, best to keep that in mind.
chronic_loser said: Sometimes the stupidity here is matched ONLY by the prejudice. Are you trying to see how many lies or usupportable assertions you can cram into one post?
One thing has become crystal clear to me, and that is that there are many freepers who use the mess we have on the border and the resultant problems with illegals here to go off on every conceivable type of rant. I would like to see your "villages.. mostly vacant except for children and old people."
Hateful shriveled up xenophobic rants get the contempt they deserve....., except on FR immigration threads. Here they are "patriotic."
Well, happy New year to you, CL. I thought maybe you might make a resolution to check your facts before you make a total fool of yourself. Evidently not. I won't expect an apology from someone like you who only posts insults and lies.
Here's just a couple examples. There are many more. Since there is so much information,I may work up an article about all this and I'll be sure to ping you.
READ on.
http://www.cimacnoticias.com/noticias/03may/03051902.html
translated by: http://www.allanwall.com/
Mujeres y familia, víctimas de la migración masculina
By Allan Wall
[snip] Thousands of Mexican men use emigration to abandon their wives and children.
For them, that’s family values. Our open borders and encouragement of illegal immigration help these Mexican deadbeat dads dump their families.
Emigration to the United States has been in many ways absolutely devastating for family life in Mexico. (See my article “Is Emigration Good For Mexico?”) But you don’t hear much about this, because it doesn’t fit in with the rah-rah immigration stereotypes presented in the U.S. media.
But the devastation hasn’t been totally ignored by the Mexican media. One articulate Mexican woman who has spoken out on this subject is Adriana Cortés, the president of the Fundación Comunitaria de El Bajío (Community Foundation of The Bajío –a region of central Mexico). (Mujeres y familia, víctimas de la migración masculina, El Universal, May 19th, 2003)
According to Cortés: “One of the gravest problems confronting the population of the Bajío is migration, a social phenomenon that has left wives and grandmothers heading thousands of homes.”
She points out that emigration results in these women being forced to bear the burden of raising the children. The children lose their father figure, which in turn helps to create more poverty.
One of the towns in Susuapan is Tremecino:
“In Tremecino 25% of the mothers are left alone with their children, expecting a husband who may return this year, in 2 years or more, if at all.”
By the way, in Tremecino, the average age of marriage or cohabitation is 14!
One of the inhabitants of Tremecino is Rosa:
“...She had 4 children when her husband emigrated to Tucson. She was expecting him to send her money but it never arrived, because the man became an alcoholic and found another woman.”
Eventually, after 3 of her 4 children also emigrated to the U.S., Rosa took up with another man. And that finally provoked her husband’s return after 7 years. Despite the fact that he himself had already taken up with another woman, he returned from Chicago to hit and scold her for shaming him.
A few statistics are in order about these small towns. In 2002, Tremecino had 180 families, of which 45 male heads of families had emigrated. Of those 45, 3 heads of families had completely abandoned their families.
In El Salitre, in 2002 there were 45 families, of which 25 male heads of families had emigrated. Of those 25, 3 heads of families had completely abandoned their families.
That means that in Tremecino, 1 out of 15 male emigrants with families have abandoned those families. And in El Salitre, 3 out of 25 (12%) of male emigrants with families have abandoned their wives and children.
Tremecino and El Salitre are only two towns, mind you. There are towns all over the length and breadth of Mexico where you could hear similar depressing stories. [snip]
American citizen Allan Wall lives and works legally in Mexico, where he holds an FM-2 residency and work permit, but serves six weeks a year with the Texas Army National Guard, in a unit composed almost entirely of Americans of Mexican ancestry.
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The exodus is hitting central Mexican states hard, ones like Jalisco, Zacatecas and Michoacán. That state reported that the number of migrants leaving for the United States has increased to some 50,000 people each year. About half of them move permanently to the United States, and more Michoacános currently live in California, Illinois and Texas than in their homeland.
About 30,000 people migrate north each year from Casa Blanca and other towns in the drought-plagued state of Zacatecas, where the phenomenon suffuses politics, music and childhood dreams.
A teacher in Casa Blanca said enrollment had declined from 500 students in 1989 to 100 students this school year. The students who do not move north with their parents often make the journey on their own once they finish sixth grade, he said.
Of the 2,200 people who lived in the Michoacán village of Huacao 10 years ago, only 400 remain — nearly all of them are women, children too young to trek across the border, or elderly people who feel too weary. To them, the United States is a place called "over there." And when they talk about it, their voices drone with abandonment.
"My husband does not want to take us with him because most of our children are too young," said 33- year-old Consuelo Cortés, whose husband, parents and seven siblings have all left Huacao for California. "To keep myself from feeling sad, I devote a lot of time to taking care of the house. I grow a little bit of corn, and I take care of my pigs.
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http://earthops.org/immigration/17MEXI.html
Of course, however, looking to poverty as the cause of this ghastly problem within humanity does little to nothing to explain why the very rich are also sexual predators, to include some predating upon children.
Thus, I'm revising my earlier comments about poverty as the cause of this...at least as to victims, it is still an incentive and a large part of the problem as to why some fall victim to predators.
IMMIGRATION
Crossing the Line
Ahuacatlan, the name of a dusty village hidden high in the cloud-covered mountains of the central Mexican state of Queretaro, means "land of avocados" in the Nahuatl tongue. But the quaint name does not describe the village today, where fruit trees are no longer plentiful on the surrounding slopes. Nor, for that matter, is much else.
So each fall, the men of Ahuacatlan travel north to work en el otro lado (on the other side), mainly in Texas, and return the next summer with the money they've earned. Most of them spend their days in Texas picking crops like those that used to grow in Ahuacatlan, harvesting much of the hand-picked fruits and vegetables produced in the U.S.
When the men are away from Ahuacatlan, the village is populated by women, children, and the elderly. The parish priest complains about teenage boys looking forward to their first trips north rather than to jobs in Ahuacatlan or even San Juan del Rio, the nearest city of any size. Crossing the border for a job has become a modern-day rite of passage. And year after year--wives without husbands, sisters without brothers, young children without fathers, old folks without sons--Ahuacatlan has evolved from a patriarchy without patriarchs into a matriarchy.
Ahuacatlan's eerie, half-empty existence highlights one of the most difficult issues facing the Texas-Mexico border: immigration, with or without benefit of documentation.
Chronic_loser said:
I would like to see your "villages.. mostly vacant except for children and old people."
Hateful shriveled up xenophobic rants get the contempt they deserve....., except on FR immigration threads. Here they are "patriotic."
51 posted on 01/01/2006 8:50:29 AM PST by chronic_loser"