Judging Darwin and God (e-mail title: Education or Indoctrination?)

Seattle Times ^ | 12/23/'05 | David Klinghoffer

[Zionist Conspirator]

Looks like the worshippers of the holy trinity of Jefferson, Darwin, and Ayn Rand are going to have to continue to suffer the "discrediting" of the conservative movement. There go all those tax cuts and clone farms.

Be prepared for the additional embarrassment of a rebuilt Holy Temple and restored `Avodah (sacrificial service) in the near future, please G-d.

[RadioAstronomer]

This article is full of crap. ID is not science.

[longshadow]

Oh, look! This at least the third time an article has been posted on FR as though it were a mainstream news story, when in fact it is a guest column written by one of the clowns at the UnDiscovery Insititute. Behold:

David Klinghoffer of Mercer Island is a columnist for the Jewish Forward, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, and the author most recently of "Why the Jews Rejected Jesus: The Turning Point in Western History" (Doubleday).

Amazing how it is that posters somehow manage to forget to include that passage; it appears right at the end of the column.

[Sols]

"In brief, Jones ruled that disparaging Darwinian evolutionary theory in biology class violates the separation of church and state."

My my, that is quite the whopping lie.

[shuckmaster]

If you're going to post garbage like this, you should at least be honest enough to post the disclaimer at the bottom of the article that identifies the writer as a stooge for the Discovery Institute.

[GSlob]

Let's pour a good libation to Bacchus. And then repeat.

[M203M4]

The temple for the cult of Beheism.

[darkangel82]

At the University of Minnesota, biologist P.Z. Myers, a bulldog for Darwin, writes about how he wishes he could use a time machine to go back and eliminate the biblical patriarch Abraham: "I wouldn't do anything as trivial as using it to take out Hitler."

Um, WTF?

[Cicero]

This article is full of crap. ID is not science.

Brilliant analysis.

I wish you knee-jerk, insulting Darwinists would get the clue. The basic issue is not which is correct, Darwin or ID. The issue is whether tyrannical left wing judges can force people to swallow whatever they dictate in violation of the basic principles of the Constitution.

This month it's Darwin. Next month it will be condom education in kindergarten. The month after that it will be gay marriage.

What this article says, basically, is that federal judges have no business making decisions on the basis of bogus theology.

[fizziwig]

Doesn't take long for the hostility of the Darwinists to come through. Its amazing actually, because they have a compelling case. So why the extremist defensivness and hostility?

And they won, this case anyway.

Pretty shocking what the two Darwin honcho's had to say....and to state that one would rather off Abraham than Hitler? Now that is revealing!

[Coyoteman]

If you're going to post garbage like this, you should at least be honest enough to post the disclaimer at the bottom of the article that identifies the writer as a stooge for the Discovery Institute.

Now I guess we know where the research budget for the DI does. It goes to get pieces like this into print.

Some research, eh? Nobel prize just around the corner.

[longshadow]

.... tyrannical left wing judges ...

Your "knee-jerk" reaction to the thoughtful, deliberative ruling of a Republican judge appointed to the Federal bench by Pres. Bush in 2002, is duly noted. Perhaps it is you who needs to "get a clue"....

[shuckmaster]

The issue is whether tyrannical left wing judges can force people to swallow whatever they dictate in violation of the basic principles of the Constitution.

You should take time to study the Dover case a little closer. It was the local citizens backed by their science teachers who had to go to a Bush appointed conservative judge after the board, which admittedly had been seduced by a Seattle based seller of charlatan books, attempted to force people to swallow whatever they dictate about what teachers can and can't teach as science. When you consider the amount of garbage public schools are putting into the curriculum these days, consider this a rare victory for the local citizens against outside forces with a perverted agenda.

[shuckmaster]

Great minds think alike indeed!

[wallcrawlr]

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[PatrickHenry]

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[PatrickHenry]

a Republican judge appointed to the Federal bench by Pres. Bush in 2002

Judge Jones acted in the best conservative tradition. He carefully determined the facts, which are pretty much beyond dispute: Here's the judge's opinion.

Having found that ID is creationism, he then applied precedents (he didn't make up his own law) and ruled that it was unconstitutional to present a religious doctrine in a science class. Not a difficult decision, when you're following the law.

[Wormwood]

Not a difficult decision, when you're following the law.

Apparently,. some on the right actually want judicial activism, provided it benefits their agenda.

[Cicero]

Judges are not in business either to decide what is good and bad science or to decide what is good and bad theology.

He was appointed by Bush? So what? Earl Warren was a Republican appointee. David Souter was a Republican appointee. They have both made more trouble than the worst Democrat judges.

Evidently Bush made a mistake. He never should have appointed this activist friend of the ACLU.

[Cicero]

This is not the action of a conservative judge.

If the citizens didn't like the actions of their school board, they had at their disposal the usual democratic option of voting them out and electing somebody else.

Instead, they brought in the ACLU and brought suit. I assume that it cost the taxpayers a mint by the time it was over, and the town is now saddled with an arbitrary, unconstitutional decision by an unelected judge. No way they can vote THAT out of office.