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To: saganite

Nor does evolution. Evolution is one of the least supportable theories in existence. The fossil history is non-existent as are any examples of current evolution.
The core theory of evolution is that the progress of all life began with the "Big Bang". This is wildly mad if you consider that the singularity, from which the Big Bang arose, is expressed as a area the size of a ball point pen ball, in which all matter existed and none of the laws of physics applied.
One must ask as to where the singularity came from in the first instance.
Evolution sounds like faith instead of science.


151 posted on 12/20/2005 8:48:37 AM PST by em2vn
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Evolution is one of the least supportable theories in existence.

No. That would be the theory of phlogiston.

166 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:54 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: em2vn

And your proposal is to replace it with an unbending faith instead of further scientific enquiry? That's simply unacceptable.


170 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:00 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: em2vn
"The fossil history is non-existent as are any examples of current evolution."

Wildly wrong on both accounts.

"The core theory of evolution is that the progress of all life began with the "Big Bang"."

Nope, wrong theory.

"This is wildly mad if you consider that the singularity, from which the Big Bang arose, is expressed as a area the size of a ball point pen ball, in which all matter existed and none of the laws of physics applied.
One must ask as to where the singularity came from in the first instance.
Evolution sounds like faith instead of science."

Again, wrong theory. This is NOT evolution.
171 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:04 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: em2vn

> Evolution sounds like faith instead of science.

That's a bit strong, but on the margins of cosmology, we are certainly getting into untestable theories that are created ex post facto to explain ever more detailed observations of the universe. Quite where one crosses the line into the realm of faith is far from clear.

I am also troubled by the fact that asserting that there is no God is apparently considered a non-religious statement and thus capable of being taught in schools, but that the refutation of this statement, or even the ackknowledgement of the arguments in that direction, are beyond the pale.


181 posted on 12/20/2005 8:53:56 AM PST by MikeGranby
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To: em2vn
The fossil history is non-existent as are any examples of current evolution.

That may sound good, but is simply not true. We see evolution in action among elephant populations in Asia right now.

Elephants are being hunted for their tusks. Elephants born without tusks, generally at a disadvantage in finding food, are surviving to breed in higher numbers. The tuskless elephants are better suited to their environment, and as a result the population is becoming more and more dominated by tuskless elephants.

Predation is an important part of natural selection. It is through this particular predation that we have an example of "current evolution".

215 posted on 12/20/2005 9:06:44 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: em2vn

"The core theory of evolution is that the progress of all life began with the "Big Bang"."

The big bang and evolution have nothing in common and are related in no way.

Darwin's theory of natural selection starts with existing life. It does not delve into the origin or life, and certainly not the origin of the universe.


217 posted on 12/20/2005 9:07:38 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: em2vn
The fossil history is non-existent


378 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:48 AM PST by cogitator
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The fossil history is non-existent

Non-existent? Who are these handsome critters, then?


Figure 1.4.4. Fossil hominid skulls. Some of the figures have been modified for ease of comparison (only left-right mirroring or removal of a jawbone). (Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.)


525 posted on 12/20/2005 11:00:19 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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