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LOL. Right. I have the videos after hearing his name bantied about by you wannabes endlessly as though you knew something. The last thread in which his name came up in my presence ended up revealing that the party attacking Hovind didn't know the first thing about which he spoke. I'm not shifting burden. I have the videos and the capacity to pull the quotes. I think I was quite clear on my intent. I want to know if you have any idea about your subject. I'd gamble that you've never watched the first minute of a Hovind lecture or debate and are only parroting the same character assassination cut and pastes that all of you seem to know how to find in absence of capacity for independant thought. Are you a cut and paste monkey ignorant of your subject, or are you remotely honest - having a clue about your subject. Inquiring minds want to know.

This post may be a little late but I feel a need to impart some information. (Perhaps a lurker or two will benefit)

5 weeks ago, I spent more than 6 hours listening to Hovind's lectures with the intention of listing his errors and debunking them on FR. I sat there with a pad of paper and a pen in hand. After 15 minutes of listening to the actual seminar (much of the start of the seminar was taken up by poor jokes and stealth adds) I had two pages of my 81/2 x 11 pad filled with errors and found myself falling behind in my transcription. I then began to pause the seminar every few seconds simply to enable my writing hand to keep up (remember - I was documenting errors only). Eventually I gave up, there were far too many errors to debunk within a reasonable time. Although I gave up documenting his errors within the first 30 minutes, I did force myself to listen to the rest of the seminars I had downloaded. It was quite an education into the mind and methods of a snake-oil salesman.

The arguments Hovind uses are deceptive, disingenuous and brilliantly designed to elicit and prey on the emotions of his audience rather than to encourage thinking. I found that what Hovind left out was in many cases was as misleading as what he included.