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To: rollo tomasi
Tacitus was born 20 odd years after the cruxifixtion took place not over a hundred. Heck the Annals were written around 109AD. The cruxifixtion took place around 30 AD. 109-30 does not equal over hundred years.

Sorry, my mistake. Not 100, just 79. It's simply the equivalent of writing reminiscenses of Calvin Coolidge in the year 2005 -- a little suspect.

Why would a Roman Emperor commission someone to write a biography about a person who claimed He was the Son of God?

Oh, I'm sure there's lots of reasons why they wouldn't do that, but you're still giving an argument from a lack of evidence, which isn't particularly persuasive. Augustus probably also would have had reasons for covering up a short-lived extraterrestrial invasion too -- maybe the glaring ommission of any reference to such an event could be taken as proof of a coverup.

402 posted on 12/17/2005 12:35:50 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
It's simply the equivalent of writing reminiscenses of Calvin Coolidge in the year 2005 -- a little suspect.

Hmmm. There are oceans of contemporary material available about CC. Vast quantities of newsreel footage, newspaper articles, verbatim transcripts. The actual equivalent would be reminiscences of Joe Nobody from Smalltown , Iowa 80 years later.

404 posted on 12/17/2005 12:38:45 PM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Alter Kaker
What lack of evidence? Where did the writings that comprised the New Testament come from in the first place?

It was by empirical evidence, facts and eyewitness accounts by those who saw Jesus Christ. Did you expect Roman Emperors at the time embrace a self proclaimed Deity named Jesus Christ? Emperors used believers in this young movement as killing for fun and sport.

Tacitus, through the authority of the Roman Empire just confirmed this movement. The Annals was an "outside" source that used Roman records, which you objected to hardly existing in the first place.

It is unfortunate that many Roman records and parts of Annals where destroyed, never to be found but Tacitus did conclude:

"Christus" was the founder

Was executed under Pilate during Tiberius's time

Judea was the starting place for this movement

And in 60 AD Christians were being executed for their beliefs in Christ.

All Tiberius did was record previous Roman records (In the case of Christ 70 years after the fact) to provide an archive for future use.
425 posted on 12/17/2005 1:15:28 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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