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To: Texas Eagle
He was??? So when he said, "God doesn't roll dice with the universe" he, in fact, believed God DID roll dice with the universe?

Apparently you are totally unfamiliar with the context (or willing to engage in willful equivocation for rhetorical value).

Einstein, in the "dice" quote, was suggesting that the most fundamental principles of physics could not be probabilistic, and therefore arguing (unsuccessfully then and to date as it turned out) that some more fundamental, and deterministic, theory must underlie quantum dynamics.

This has not a thing to do with evolution because all the principles relevant to evolution are several levels of explanation removed from the most fundamental principles of physics. E.g.: FUNDAMENTAL PHYSICS (relativity, QD, unified theories, fundamental forces, etc) ---> ATOMIC AND MOLECULAR PHYSICS ---> CHEMISTRY ---> BIOCHEMISTRY & FUNDAMENTAL BIOLOGY, biological process like respiration, replication, etc ---> GENETICS, population dynamics, etc ---> EVOLUTION.

Einstien was obviously aware that lower level, more fundamental, principles could underlie higher level principles that were propabilistic. After all, this was precisely what he was arguing wrt Quantum Dynamics. IOW he accepted that QD was valid in it's own right, and recognized that it was genuinely probablistic (i.e. not just misinterpreted that way), but thought there was a deterministic theory "beneath" it.

As another example Einstein himself proposed a probablistic theory in his explanation of Brownian Motion, which is at what I'm calling the "atomc and molecular physics" level.

398 posted on 12/17/2005 12:32:00 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis

It is sad, isn't it, that someone would try to discredit the proud state of Texas by trolling in its name.


401 posted on 12/17/2005 12:33:55 PM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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