[Baraonda]

"Why would I care if you found a quote that I had posted about fifteen minutes ago?"

I wasn't the one who found it - RunningWolf did.

The quote, btw is here

"I stand by it."

But you said #1789 that you do NOT know of anyone who accepts that humans originated from monkeys.

Here is that exchange in #1789:

Me: "Do you believe humans originated from monkeys?"

You: "No, and I am not aware of anyone who accepts evolution who does."

Often the accuser of a lie is the originator of it.

[js1138]

What is your point? Humans did not originate from monkeys. No biologist would say they did.

[Dimensio]

The quote, btw is here

If you check the reference, you'll see that RunningWolf is quoting me from post #1,789.

But you said #1789 that you do NOT know of anyone who accepts that humans originated from monkeys.

That's correct. I have not said that humans originated from monkeys, I said that humans and monkeys share common ancestry. That is not the same thing. Humans and monkeys share common ancestry, but humans did not originate from monkeys.

The only one lying here is you. Well, and RunningWolf, but I've come to expect nothing but lies from him.

[b_sharp]

You are equivocating.

The closest non-human ancestor to humans, one that we share with chimpanzees, is indeed not a monkey. This particular common ancestor is usually the focus of discussion and is what we 'evos' generally address. However going farther back than the common ancestor between Humans and chimps, and of humans and gorillas and of humans and orang utans, we do end up sharing an ancestor with monkeys. The first 'monkey' relative we have are old world monkeys with whom we share the common ancestors of new world monkeys.

The phylogenic tree, which was originally based solely on morphology, is being shown to be highly accurate by corroborating evidence taken from genomics.

[Stultis]

Me: "Do you believe humans originated from monkeys?"

You: "No, and I am not aware of anyone who accepts evolution who does."

Often the accuser of a lie is the originator of it.

You're equivocating two claims that have different meanings. (Frankly I think you're doing so intentionally as a disruption tactic. But I could be wrong. Maybe you ARE that dense.)

"Humans originated from monkeys."

...is not, I repeat NOT, equivalent to the claim that...

"Humans and monkeys share common ancestry."

For instance you and your sister (or a cousin, or an uncle) "share common ancestry". This does not mean that your originated FROM your sister (or cousin, or uncle).

In short, while the second claim is true (humans and monkeys do share a common ancestry) the second is FALSE. Humans did not originate from monkeys. But then you have been told this.

In fact MONKEYS as a group have nothing to do with the human lineage. Monkeys split off from other primates millions, indeed tens of millions, of years before Humans and APES split. New World Monkeys split off about 40 million years ago and Old World Monkeys about 30 million years ago. The Ape/Human split only occurred a few million years ago.