[CarolinaGuitarman]

"If YOU say so!"

I do, and so does the evidence. The peppered moth example was never meant to show speciation.

" Look, my contention is evolution is not proven and shouldn't be taught as such."

No theory in science ever gets proven. Proof is for mathematics and whiskey. It's all about evidence in science; and Hovind with his fake diploma hasn't any. :)

[sirchtruth]

It's all about evidence in science; and Hovind with his fake diploma hasn't any. :)

You mean like science allows such unproven, speculative crappola to be in text books?

The only thing that's fake that I know of for sure, is Evolution...;-)

[sirchtruth]

..and Hovind with his fake diploma hasn't any. :)

He has just as much evidence and intellegence as anybody on this board with REAL diploma's, what does that tell ya Sherlock? The thing he won't do is lie about what he believes, unlike most evo's.