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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: RunningWolf

Off topic, but Richard Boone lived a mile or so from where I worked in the 90s. I'm old enough that I watched the show in its original run.


1,881 posted on 12/20/2005 6:12:20 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: RightWingNilla

It's been so long since he's been around, I just can't seem to capture the flavor of his posts. Perhaps bourbon would help.


1,882 posted on 12/20/2005 6:32:09 AM PST by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: Thatcherite

Frre Republic poster Patrick Henry [misnomer] contended that the original Patrick Henry had to be a Creationist since he lived before Darwin. But there were plenty of non-creationists before Darwin. I can't make it any simpler, and I'm not sure why I wasted this much time trying any way. My last post on the subject. I'll leave you and PH alone with each other.


1,883 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:46 AM PST by razorbak
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To: Quark2005

And he opened his mouth, and
taught them, saying,

Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.


1,884 posted on 12/20/2005 6:57:51 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: Right Wing Professor

I know you won't be shocked to know that some of but some of us find your grammar at times, amusing as well....


1,885 posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:33 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill
Grammar mistakes are rather trivial compared to posting that a suntan is equivalent to the acquisition of resistance to antibiotics, or the assertion that evolution attempts to explain the origin of life, or the assertion that biologists believe we are descended from monkeys.

Anyone can post a typo, and most Freepers occasionally do. It takes brass to continue posting ignorant garbage after being called on it.
1,886 posted on 12/20/2005 7:05:25 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Ichneumon
see attribution
1,887 posted on 12/20/2005 7:13:17 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: js1138
It takes brass to continue posting ignorant garbage after being called on it.

I couldn't agree more.... well said...
1,888 posted on 12/20/2005 7:16:25 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: balrog666
I think that's from a different thread in which graphic sigs were starting to proliferate. It was meant as a warning shot across the bow.
1,889 posted on 12/20/2005 7:19:35 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: wolfcreek

The huge canyons, some hundreds of feet deep and in solid rock, around Mount Saint Helens were made in a matter of days. While probably not in half an hour, it is possible for the Grand Canyon to be formed fast.

P.S. It's not smart to publicly call evolution stupid if you're trying to convince people of creationism.


1,890 posted on 12/20/2005 7:23:24 AM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Dimensio

If there was a contest for using the word liar you would win.


1,891 posted on 12/20/2005 7:26:59 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Havoc
If the earth had a canopy at the time which filtered a lot of the higher spectrum, I don't think you can sustain that argument.

You're not dealing with the energy of the radioactive decay from Earth, supposedly speeded up as well in these models. The canopy isn't keeping that out. If anything it's helping to hold it in.

And what O what is keeping a hollow spherical shell of water (ice?) from collapsing onto the Earth through the centuries up to Flood Time?

I have to admit a mistake, though. I looked at your homepage. You aren't Hovind. I'll leave it at that so this post can stay up.

1,892 posted on 12/20/2005 7:31:16 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: darbymcgill
In my post 1339 I asked you for evidence that I have ever posted in support of the Creationist argument. For well over 24 hours you refused to meet my challenge.

So here we are all these pages later. You've posted the standard "I see no evidence; I understand no evidence and you'll never ever ever make me; Ooooh you evos are such meanies!" creationist claptrap without stop for all that time.

1,893 posted on 12/20/2005 7:42:36 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Havoc
"If the earth had a canopy at the time which filtered a lot of the higher spectrum, I don't think you can sustain that argument. Further, you'd have do know the output of the sun at that time. In short, you're assuming a lot of things, again, that you can't sustain. That's the problem with assumption. Once you start, that's about all you get done.. assumption.

The point is we could calculate the energy output of the sun and the amount reaching the earth based on the speed of light at the time. We can calculate the speed of light necessary to reach the Earth from a specific distance in a specific time. Remember, you are the one claiming that the speed of light and the rate of decay were high enough in the past to give us an error in dating of a factor of 7.5 x 106.

A canopy raises its own pile of questions. What was the composition of the canopy? What were the lower and upper bounds of the canopy? How much did the canopy increase the atmospheric pressure at sea level if at all? How much heat did the canopy retain? What frequencies of light reached the surface? How did this affect plants?

If we ignore the problems of sustaining a canopy above the Earth and assume the canopy reduces the amount of energy heating up the Earth we are still left with the problem of energy from radioactive materials. If the canopy restricts the amount of energy reaching the Earth from the sun, it will also restrict the amount of energy radiating out to space from the surface of the Earth, including the huge amount of energy released by an increased speed of decay.

Any way you look at it, in a 6000 year old Earth, heat would prevent most life from existing.

I agree that assumptions affect conclusions, but some assumptions are based on more than wild conjecture. In the case we are discussing, the assumption we operate on is that E=MC2 was as valid then as now. It would take more than an 'assumption' that it was not valid in the past for us to abandon our use of it. We can also assume that the mass of the Sun and of Earth has been consistent as well; if we didn't, the Earth's orbit would be totally different than it is today and would not likely be stable.

1,894 posted on 12/20/2005 7:43:33 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: js1138; Baraonda
Humans did not originate from monkeys. No biologist would say they did.

I'm no biologist and don't play one on the Internet, but I'll be the one to sound a sour note.

Humans are not descended from any modern monkey species. However, it's highly likely that if you had a time machine and were tracing human ancestry back through time, you would arrive at a population of animals that you would unquestionably call monkeys.

1,895 posted on 12/20/2005 7:47:35 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Perhaps you should look here?
1,896 posted on 12/20/2005 7:59:59 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: VadeRetro
Are you really in some kind of denial over which side you nitpick

I have "nitpicked", as you call it, on the side of science.

As far as denia, you do know what projection is.

Still, your ever present seething anger makes me know that I have hurt your feelings in the past.

I'm sorry. I haven't meant to hurt your feelings or made you feel bad.

It'll be OK. Cheer up.

1,897 posted on 12/20/2005 8:01:57 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Baraonda; He Rides A White Horse

There is a difference between a scientific theory and a scientific law, but not the one you are hoping for.


1,898 posted on 12/20/2005 8:06:33 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: tallhappy
I have "nitpicked", as you call it, on the side of science.

Exactly. So stop nitpicking on us and nitpick the witch doctors instead of running interference for them.

(OK, I suspect the literal truth in your quoted sentence was unintentional on your part. Still, there it is.)

1,899 posted on 12/20/2005 8:18:51 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Baraonda

I've been quietly reading your posts in this thread waiting for some substantive argument against evolution or positive evidence for whatever your belief system holds as the true cause of the variety of organisms on Earth, but so far all I have seen from you is a bunch of unsubstantiated assertions.

When do you present something that can actually be debated?


1,900 posted on 12/20/2005 8:21:50 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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