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To: pigdog; Your Nightmare
A lot of the numbers you use clearly won't get the preate - and that's what #299 shows.

Come on pigdog, stop acting dumb. If they are not married, they are not part of the same family according to the bill. However they still fully qualify for a prebate as a separate family. I am serious. You are really not this stupid are you???? I can't believe anybody is.

There is no such thing as people whom "does not qualify fully" in the bill. Everyone qualifies fully if they are citizens. The only difference is adults qualify for $2181 and children qualify for $736 (2004 figures). There is no marriage advantage or penalty. Anyway you group them into families, it all adds up to the same. The simpliest way to calculate it is to find out how many adult and children citizens there are and multiply $2181 and $736, respectively. That would get you 2004 numbers, which is closer to what Your_Nightmare calculated.

If you used 2005 data it would be close to the $480 number.

310 posted on 12/20/2005 11:08:20 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I know you are "serious" - that's the sad part.

Read the bill. You don't understand what it says.

I don't know if you're just pretending to be this ignorant or not, but whatever it is it sure works.

Your figure is, simply, wrong. Too large by a good amount.


317 posted on 12/20/2005 11:17:10 AM PST by pigdog
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To: Always Right

No, everyone does NOT qualify merely because they live in the same household. The bill is quite clear on the point.

If, say, Nightie and I were to be living in your house [shudder](assuming you were single here) neither of us would be qualified to receive the prebate - only you would assuming you were the "head of the household". There is only one residence for the family and the people residing there must be related per the bill for them to qualify for the inclusion in the prebate. You'd get it for the one-person family (you) but poor old Nightie and pigdog would not qualify ... nor would their cocker spaniel.

You need to read and understand what the bill says - I posted the applicable portion in #287. In post #299 I also explained how there could be other types of non-qualified persons residing in a non-family household (even as the head of household) which could disqualify anyone in the household from getting the prebate.

Your assumption that the Census Bureau has any sort of accurate record of illegal aliens isn't even reasonable. (In an earlier post you see to grasp to some degree how inaccurate the data can be - but I don't think you genuinely understand it is probably off by 10% or more in the case of illegal aliens. You must have missed the Bear Stearns study which was quite definitive using multiple methods of data verification and derivation as opposed to the C. B. numbers. The Bear Stearns paper came up with a well-reasoned count of 20 million illegal aliens - and that was a year ago. The 20 million figure is certainly closer to the truth than 8 million.

U. S. citizenship is only one of the requiremente - not the only one as you seem to think. Once again, read the bill (post #287). Then read #299 with more understanding. Your $480 B is way too high. As I saaid in #299, it's likely that my $369 B estimate is too high even.


326 posted on 12/20/2005 1:21:47 PM PST by pigdog
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