Posted on 12/15/2005 9:10:41 AM PST by flevit
Lets not resort to nastiness here.
You wrote: "Yes...as "Nutsy" beliefs once held until proven incorrect. Sure, why not?"
Reply: Now there you go. Well, can you really 'prove' that the planets are not pushed around the sun by angels? At what point do you decide that the geocentric universe is not a valid theory?
The ID notions of 'irreducible complexity' and "specified complexity' have been shown to be unscientific, internally inconsistent, and not productive of research. Why would we want to keep teaching them?
There is no proof that we evolved from apes. Period
I appreciate the explanation.
I think you have identified the problem. One either sees the scientific evidence or accepts what the bible says in spite of the evidence.
A few weeks ago I read an article in the newspaper about a new theory that a large asteroid hitting the ocean millions of years ago (or maybe it hit in the eastern shore of maryland, now that I think about it), anyway it caused a tsunami that supposedly topped the appalachian mountains.
I'm thinking that, if true, that should leave some sort of flood evidence.
I remember being down in Atlanta and seeing a cut-through which they had as an exhibit, which showed fossils of sea life. They happily explained how this proved evolution, and how this part of the world must have been under sea level and then it "thrust up" giving evidence of rapid sedimentation and aquatic fossils hundreds of feet above sea level. Couldn't have been a world-wide flood, nope, not a chance.....
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/photogalleries/ape_ancestor/
I didn't realize that NG, is trying to discredit evolution
Really? According to at least one FR evolutionists, man did descend from apes. Check out his post.
Alas, he probably does.
i.e...."If you don't agree with us...you're an idiot."
All anyone has to say is that "Evolution is NOT proven"....and the dogmatics come out of the wooodwork.
Evolutionists are NOT open to any other way but theirs...
redrock
Actually he's saying that we descended from the same organisms that apes did. This is always so confusing to the anti-science crowd.
Daschle is very concerned
Life is far more than scientific measurement and analysis. How do you measure spiritual well-being? What you and libs appear to fail to recognize is the potential benefit of some spiritual teaching....Yes, in conjuction with cold scientific facts.
A balance is in order....why doom children to cold science exclusively?
How about this. An archaeologist (me) says, based on 35 years of work in the western US, there is no evidence in the western US of a large-scale flood such as is claimed to have occurred some 4200-4300 years ago.
You need to address this kind of evidence if you wish to support the flood story. This is not something I read or heard somewhere, this is something I have worked hard to learn. There is no counter to it on the creation pages, so most creationists on these theads simply ignore it when I bring it up. What do you say?
Stupid title. NOBODY who knows anything about evolution has EVER asserted that humanity evolved from apes.
The general assertion is that apes and humans share a distant, but common evolutionary ancestor. Evidence for this is the fact than humans and chimps have about 96% of their DNA in common.
Ultimately, it is a matter of faith. I believe that we may not have evolved from apes, but that humans and apes may have had common ancestors. Understanding the processes God used to introduce man and the other creatures into a dynamic environment does not make it less miraculous.
I fall into a third category--I see all the scientific evidence, but interpret it slightly differently than you do.
You wrote: "Couldn't have been a world-wide flood, nope, not a chance....."
Reply: The evidence against Noah's Flood includes not only the lack of geological evidence and much better explanations, but also from the domain of physics--condensing all that water vapor would release so much heat that the oceans would boil!
And is illogical from a theological and moral perspective. If God is so powerful as to create the Universe, surely He could have found a way to punish the bad people without having to kill innocent fetuses in pregnant women, without drowning innocent newborns and toddlers, without wiping out millions of innocent animals that had no stake in the argument (apparently in a fit of pique).
I used to hate bananas until I went to the zoo and saw the chimps peeling them and found they really do taste better without the skin...honest.
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