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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I agree that is why there called theories, my point is that they should present both sides to a debate, if only one side is allowed to be presented, then it is not truly presented as a theory.


861 posted on 12/05/2005 4:18:43 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: whispering out loud
if only one side is allowed to be presented, then it is not truly presented as a theory.

There are currently no competing theories for the theory of evolution. CS/ID are not theories, and are not science.

See the following definitions, which I have had to post man times (from a google search):

Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

Hypothesis: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices"

Guess: an opinion or estimate based on incomplete evidence, or on little or no information

Law: a generalization that describes recurring facts or events in nature; "the laws of thermodynamics"

Assumption: premise: a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"

Speculation: a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence)

Observation: any information collected with the senses

Data: factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions

Fact: when an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact

Belief: any cognitive content (perception) held as true; religious faith

Faith the belief in something for which there is no evidence or logical proof

Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof

Impression: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying"

Based on this, evolution is a theory. CS and ID are beliefs.

862 posted on 12/05/2005 4:24:43 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: whispering out loud

"I agree that is why there called theories, my point is that they should present both sides to a debate, if only one side is allowed to be presented, then it is not truly presented as a theory."

But there ISN'T two sides to the issue, scientifically speaking. ID is not science, and has no place in the classroom.


863 posted on 12/05/2005 4:31:52 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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