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To: CarolinaGuitarman
it just *is*.

I hope you arent' trying to remove motion from the world. If there is motion, it moves from one state to another. This is a different are of study than a metaphysics of being

All motion is teleological, whether predetermined or not.

Perhaps you'll recall that Plato moved away from the world of flux in order to understand what "just is."

335 posted on 11/30/2005 10:55:01 AM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis
" I hope you arent' trying to remove motion from the world."

No.

" All motion is teleological, whether predetermined or not."

Not in the way you mean it. There are many ways that *teleology* is used. You are talking about *cosmic teleology*.
This is different from teleomatic and teleonomic processes. Teleomatic processes are those of inanimate matter where the process moves toward an end state. Gravity is a good example. Teleonomic processes are ones that owe their goal-directedness to the operation of a program. Behavior is a good example here.

Cosmic teleology deals with the goals of the universe as a whole, it's purpose. It's not possible for their to be an ultimate goal for natural selection.
347 posted on 11/30/2005 11:17:05 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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