[Cicero]

I say that the "wedge" doctrine is someone else's take on it, not the belief of major ID proponents themselves. Or if, to raise a conjecture, it is their secret belief, that would be no more reprehensible than the opposite, not-so-secret belief of materialists.

You could say precisely the same thing about Darwinism, Marxism, and Freudianism, that they are "wedges" to promote the triumph of materialism and to pretend that a conjecture is an established fact.

How partisans try to make use of one theory or another has no necessary connection as to whether those theories are scientifically probable. Many scientists are ideologues, which is not all that reprehensible as long as they allow their facts to be checked.

For instance, if global warming were real, the question would be what we should do about it. But first, before that question arises, we need to establish that global warming is real.

[Coyoteman]

You could say precisely the same thing about Darwinism, Marxism, and Freudianism, that they are "wedges" to promote the triumph of materialism and to pretend that a conjecture is an established fact.

Nah, Darwinism is just a scientific theory; it is neutral in regards to god, and works by the scientific method: observation, hypothesis, theory. The other two, well...

For instance, if global warming were real, the question would be what we should do about it. But first, before that question arises, we need to establish that global warming is real.

Actually global warming is real. The current episode started about 15,000 years ago, and the seas have risen between 325 and 425 feet (depending on who you listen to). Most of that was prior to 5,000 years ago.

What is the equivalent of "the sky is falling" with the oceans? "The tide's coming in" doesn't have quite as nice a ring to it.

[shuckmaster]

if global warming were real, the question would be what we should do about it. But first, before that question arises, we need to establish that global warming is real.

Global warming has been real for over 11,000 years and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.

[Stultis]

I say that the "wedge" doctrine is someone else's take on it, not the belief of major ID proponents themselves.

Huh?!? Some else, who? The Wedge Document is an internal memorandum from the Discovery Institute, THE leading organization in the Intelligent Design movement!

[Oztrich Boy]

I say that the "wedge" doctrine is someone else's take on it, not the belief of major ID proponents themselves

Then you are misspeaking. The Discovery Institute Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture is the major ID proponents themselves.

In his book Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds, Phillip Johnson, commnomly recognised as the father of 20th Century ID, identifies himself as the Creator of The Wedge.