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Teen dad profiled in People mag is killed
UPI ^ | 11/21/2005

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:20:33 AM PST by ncountylee

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To: Ninian Dryhope
His daughter would have been better off is he would have waited to conceive her after he had graduated from high school, got a steady job, and married her mother. There is a reason for the old fashion way of doing things. It works.

Well arent you perfect... *rolling eyes*

81 posted on 11/22/2005 8:07:29 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: American_Centurion
Not automatically.

Anyone who works a nightshift at a small business in West Philadelphia runs a good risk of being robbed or shot.

Many graveyard shift convenience store clerks will be shot to death this year - does that mean they were in the drug trade?

82 posted on 11/22/2005 8:08:54 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: mlc9852

It's not a glorification of his mistakes. It's approval of his decision to right those mistakes and take responsibility for them.


83 posted on 11/22/2005 8:09:54 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: smith288
I see we have another one who is afraid to distinguish between right and wrong. Afraid to "cast the first stone".

ya know, that is what is wrong with America and why our families are falling apart. People afraid to speak up about what is right and what is wrong.

Just think if people had spoken up 40 years ago?

I would read a little further into the discussion....there might be more to his killing than a random act of violence.

84 posted on 11/22/2005 8:11:01 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: cruiserman
That's a confusing pair of sentences. Is the daughter's name Diamond Diamond?

Actually, I think it is poor editing or lazy reporting or bad writing.

Terrell Pough was shot in the head on his way home from work Thursday night and later died at Temple University Hospital, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported....

The August issue of People profiled Pough, who worked as the night manger at a local restaurant while attending school full-time and raising his daughter, Diamond, who will be 2 on Nov. 27.

Diamond, (should read Pough), who had full-custody of his daughter, had planned to work in construction after graduating next June.

The daughter's name would be Diamond Pough.

85 posted on 11/22/2005 8:11:34 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Sensei Ern

Mary Magdalene "made a mistake". The woman taken in adultery made a mistake. St Peter made a number of mistakes. Yet Jesus loved them and forgave when they chose to follow the right road.
Why are you less forgiving?


86 posted on 11/22/2005 8:12:07 AM PST by born in the Bronx
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To: wideawake
What if and I say IF we find out he was involved in some nefarious activities that helped lead to his death? Will that change your mind?

Are we then allowed to call wrong, wrong, and right, right?

87 posted on 11/22/2005 8:12:24 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
He was doing something that most people consider impossible - a young black man taking responsibility for the child he fathered, working, getting an education and trying to be a good parent.

There are two or three million young men in this country who need to do what he did but decide not to do it.

He was leading the way to a better reality.

88 posted on 11/22/2005 8:12:29 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: frogjerk; wideawake

He may not necessarily have been working in the drug trade NOW. But he had skeletons in his closet, young men DO NOT consider mortality until it stares them in the face. He knew something was coming, for his current affairs or recent past.

I'm sorry but I don't grant "benefit of the doubt" to anyone I don't personally know. I may be wrong from time to time, but it does no harm, because my personal judgements do not carry the force of law.


89 posted on 11/22/2005 8:16:06 AM PST by American_Centurion (A liberal is a socialist who isn't quite willing to get blood on his hands yet. -KarlInOhio)
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To: wideawake
I will wait to hear what the police find out. There is more to this story than is being told.

Prayers for this little girl...I pray she finds a loving, stable, two-parent home to be raised in.

But after 40 years of people being afraid to "cast the first stone" or call evil, evil and good, good,...I don't hold out much hope, especially in the inner cities.

90 posted on 11/22/2005 8:16:14 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I see we have another one who is afraid to distinguish between right and wrong. Afraid to "cast the first stone".

Good Lord... Do you ever stop?

Are you on some "God hates Fags" type of crusade against people who have made sinful mistakes?

Trust me, you are doing more harm for the Christian cause (me being one, Southern Baptist to be precise) than helping when you point at peoples flaws when yours flaws are equally, if not more noticable.

Its my judgement that Jesus would not use a story such as this to promote a sinless life. His "casting of the first stone" would be done prior to the tragedy yet he would praise the man for taking the responsibility and showing courage to be a man.

But by all means Mr Pharisee, continue to judge others. It is only you who will have to answer to God for the actions you take here on Earth.

91 posted on 11/22/2005 8:17:55 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Who the hell are we to sit in judgment on this young man? He was a 16 years old when the girl was born and instead of acting like a kid about it, he did what a man should do. Maybe he should have let the kid become a ward of the state? Maybe he should have sold drugs or maybe conspired with the kid's mother to get welfare?

You can judge him all you want to but prepared to be judged yourself for being self righteous which I think the Lord would consider a sin in its own right.
92 posted on 11/22/2005 8:19:02 AM PST by misterrob
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To: born in the Bronx

Like I said, many of my heroes made mistakes. But they are not my heroes for their mistakes.

How do you know it was Mary Magdalene? The Bible does not say it was her. THe woman who was taken in adultery is not honored for being a harlot. She is honored for her service to Christ.

Peter isn't glorified for denying Christ, is he? No.


93 posted on 11/22/2005 8:19:16 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: yellowdoghunter
You seem a little confused.

He did wrong to get a woman pregnant without marrying her.

He did right to take responsibility for the consequences of his immoral action.

There will be more rejoicing for the sheep that was lost than for the 99 who were not.

If he was involved in "nefarious" activities then clearly he did not take full responsibility for his mistakes and actually chose to commit new wrongdoings.

That's just an if, however, and it is in itself wrong to assume that he was.

94 posted on 11/22/2005 8:22:31 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: smith288

He'd have the Prodigal Son shot if he had his druthers.


95 posted on 11/22/2005 8:23:18 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: kstewskis
"His daughter would have been better off is he would have waited to conceive her after he had graduated from high school, got a steady job, and married her mother. There is a reason for the old fashion way of doing things. It works.
And had he married the mother, kept a steady job (in which, it sounds like he already had)...how would this have prevented him from getting shot in the head on his way home from work?

Are you one of those people who feel that guns are the problem and should be taken away, and not the person behind the gun?

Yours was a very self centered, judgemental, and arrogant statement. Here, you may toss the first stone now."

Not to mention that he is now dead. If he would have waited any longer to conceive then she would not have been born.
96 posted on 11/22/2005 8:23:26 AM PST by todd1
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To: mlc9852

A little girl lost her father. A father that wanted to be a part of her life. Despite the options to not be responsible he took the hard road and that took some courage. For people to say that the child even being here was a mistake and judging him for it is so unbelievably bankrupt I don't know where to begin.


97 posted on 11/22/2005 8:24:11 AM PST by misterrob
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To: Sensei Ern

Correction. You said Mary Madgalene made mistaakes, but you did not say she was the one taken in adultery.

There, I made a mistake and took the correct action by admitting my mistake. Call People so they can write an article.


98 posted on 11/22/2005 8:24:26 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: smith288
WOW! You mean Jesus would have told this guy what he was doing was wrong? His "casting of the first stone" would be done prior to the tragedy

How can you say that? I thought you thought nothing is wrong or bad?

Anyway, will it change your mind if you find out he was involved in some nefarious activities that lead to his death? Probably not, cause it is all good with you, right?

I will wait to see what the police find out.

I pray this child find a loving, stable, two-parent home to be raised in.

Too bad people didn't speak up more forcefully 40 years ago about morality and right and wrong and we probably wouldn't have these prevailing situations....but then again they had people like you shouting at them that they were "holier than thou types, etc,....

99 posted on 11/22/2005 8:25:35 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: wideawake

BTW...I am a lady....


100 posted on 11/22/2005 8:26:51 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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