University Is Accused of Bias Against Christian Schools

New York Times ^ | November 20, 2005 | CAROLYN MARSHALL

[Right Wing Professor]

Ah, good old Lambert Dolphin!

[P-Marlowe]

Don't you work for a living?

Oh yeah, you're a professor.

Sorry I asked.

[Right Wing Professor]

Obnoxious as ever, I see.

[Junior]

Are you saying that colleges should not be permitted to set standards for admissions? Sounds kinda liberal to me...

[Junior]

You're in Flame War mode today, aren't you? Two posts and you're already insulting people.

[P-Marlowe]

Obnoxious as ever, I see.

Just following your example. But then I'm only an amatuer.

I have much to learn from you, Sensei.

[Right Wing Professor]

I have much to learn from you, Sensei.

Well, here's where you start. Go out and buy a basic biology text; I mean a real biology text, not one of those Bob Jones University things. Then read it.

[pageonetoo]

when anyone who actually understands what "theory" means in a context of science knows that definition 1 is what applies. -dimentio

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

in legal terms, a "scheme"...

Evolution can be used to explain some things. It is based a a series of "if...then" conjectures. I do not accept the sames "ifs"...

I don't claim to be a scientist. I live among the hills and valleys of WV, the seaside barrier islands of NC, the high desert prairie of NM, and the vaulted hills near Prescott, AZ. I spend most of my time communing with what God has wrought.

I remember lying in the nets, by the DASH deck, on a tin can in 1967. As we cruised the warm waters of the South China Sea, the water floresced down the side of the ship, like neon lights. Sea snakes swam by, and different fishes came to check out the light show.

I remember walking on the top of a ridge in WV, among the tumbled and jumbled rocks, barely covered by a couple of inches of dead leaf soil. I saw rocks split by trees, which grew from a tiny seed.

I remember walking in the woods of eastern NC, with my Boy Scout Troop, as a boy. I learned to tell a hickory leaf from an elm. I found out that a red oak leaf is totally different from an American Oak, which is totally different from a white oak. I came face to face with my first water mocassin, while swimming in the Northeast Cape Fear River that year. We both seemed to be in a hurry to part ways.

I don't know how or when God made anything. I believe He did. I am glad He did...

[P-Marlowe]

Well, here's where you start. Go out and buy a basic biology text; I mean a real biology text, not one of those Bob Jones University things. Then read it.

Been there, done that.

Obviously reading College Biology texts didn't turn me into as seasoned an obnoxious person as yourself. Sometimes I am in awe of your abilities in that area.

Do you think that if I had studied a different Biology text that I could have learned to be almost as obnoxious as you?

Well, unlike some people around here, I gotta go and work for a living. Catch you later, Sensei.

[balrog666]

I see, then here's:

and

[Right Wing Professor]

Obviously reading College Biology texts didn't turn me into as seasoned an obnoxious person as yourself.

You're way too modest.

Do you think that if I had studied a different Biology text that I could have learned to be almost as obnoxious as you?

No, I don't think Dale Carnegie, Letitia Baldridge and Emily Post, working as a tag team, could make you almost as obnoxious as I.

[RadioAstronomer]

No wonder a large fraction of industrial research is being outsourced to India and China.

I know this first hand. Sigh.

[after dark]

"There are thousands of superb public schools throughout the land which are far better than even the best Christian school."

You can not support people who want their children to be educated in a Christian environment and attack their schools like this.

I find it passing strange that you will not own up to your bias.

[loboinok]

Then use the public schools to educate your children.

I chose to give mine the best I could and they in turn have done the same for my grandkids.

Everyone enjoys or suffers the consequences of their decisions. The beauty of freedom!

Best to you and yours.

[RadioAstronomer]

I think every rational Freeper should read this thread before it disappears. Would you mind pinging them?

Holy cow!

[justshutupandtakeit]

What the hell are you talking about. The only thing I have "attacked" is falsehood.

There are almost no Christian schools which can measure up academically to the better public schools. The former barely pay their teachers a living wage and in many cases the teachers are there only until they can get a job which pays them well enough to support a family.

I also do not "support" fantasies no matter how well intended.

As to "bias" I sent my children to both public and private religious schools. The latter was a good school but did not compare to the former. Most of the bias around here is entirely against the public schools and completely ideologically based on falsehoods.

[justshutupandtakeit]

My older son was educated in public secondary schools. My younger in private. They both attended private universities. I attended public secondary and both private and state universities.

I have no bias against either merely a bias toward the truth.

[unspun]

I'm of the school of thought that morality should be taught at home.

As for academics, I can name a few public schools in NYC that outshine almost any other school, private, religious or public in the country.

Firstly, morality or false morality is inevitably taught, everywhere. Much better that it be authentic everywhere, especially in a school. So said America's founders.

Secondly, if a few public schools outshine almost any other private school, it is implied that the converse at least is also true.

[gondramB]

"Don't you work for a living?

Oh yeah, you're a professor.

Sorry I asked."


Gosh I wonder where the idea that the ID movement is anti-intelectual? :)

Seriously, we can disagree about things and have spirited debate and still get along and respect each other.

[VadeRetro]

Gee! How did Dolphin get all those boxes and arrows out of "God said it; I believe it; that settles it!?"