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To: Alter Kaker

>>Maybe in your world, but that's not how natural selection works. Sorry.

Ahh, now we get to the root of the matter. You have accepted this dogma, and view this unreality as reality. You have FAITH in something which is unreal. Nature does not select -- nature RESPONDS to the environment. That is scientific reality, something which the Darwinists cannot accept.

>>The only desired end is surviving to reproduce succesfully.

There you go again.. LOL. A bacteria desires to reproduce? LOL, prove it scientificially. You can't. The only thing you can prove is that a bacteria reproduces itself, not that it actually has an emotional or intellectual will to do so. But, see with the dogma of darwinism, one doesn't have too -- all one has to do is blindly accept this..

>>You can call it "Dorothy" for all I care, the underlying process remains the same.

The forces of nature remain the same this is true. But the reason changes with the words used. nature does not select squat -- it merely reacts to forces. But that thought is an anathama to the faith of Darwinism.


188 posted on 11/17/2005 6:00:21 PM PST by 1stFreedom (zx1)
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To: 1stFreedom
Ahh, now we get to the root of the matter. You have accepted this dogma, and view this unreality as reality.

No, I've seen the evidence and understand how the process works. You're trying to misrepresent natural selection and that doesn't fly. Sorry.

Nature does not select -- nature RESPONDS to the environment.

I'm not sure what you're arguing here. You seem to have got the rudiments of evolution under your belt: species evolve in response to environmental pressures in order to fit specific niches. And no, it isn't a process directed by an intelligence. That's what I'm saying and it also seems to be what you're saying, unless I'm misunderstanding you.

A bacteria desires to reproduce?

A bacteria doesn't desire anything. A bacteria simply reproduces. Bacteria that don't reproduce don't pass on their genetic information to subsequent generations. In that sense, natural selection favors genes that help bacteria survive and reproduce. But it isn't a question of volition in any direct sense.

But, see with the dogma of darwinism, one doesn't have too -- all one has to do is blindly accept this.

Huh? Who says a bacterium wants to do anything? What are you talking about? When I said passing on genes was the "desired end," I wasn't speaking literally. That's just what natural selection does -- it dictates that the most fit genotypes survive and that the trend is therefore towards increasing fitness within a given environment.

But the reason changes with the words used. nature does not select squat -- it merely reacts to forces. But that thought is an anathama to the faith of Darwinism.

Again I have no idea what you're talking about. Who says "nature" is a conscious selector? Either you're not expressing yourself coherently or you don't know what you're talking about.

191 posted on 11/17/2005 6:25:58 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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