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To: AndrewC
The moon receives nearly the same energy concentration. Where is the evolved life on the moon?

As far as we know, there is no water on the moon, and no atmosphere. That is not a good medium for life.

Venus receives even more concentrated energy. Where is the evolved life on Venus.

Venus' atmosphere seems to be fairly deadly to life. That being said, we don't know if there isn't life on Venus.

It is evident that "order" involves more than just sunlight heating things.

Clearly. But we weren't discussing the conditions required for life, we were discussing whether or not the Earth is a closed system.

And although the earth is closed

So, in your opinion, a system that receives a virtually limitless external energy input qualifies as a "closed system?" Interesting.

590 posted on 11/08/2005 7:23:23 AM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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To: Palisades
Clearly. But we weren't discussing the conditions required for life, we were discussing whether or not the Earth is a closed system.

No you brought up the fact that the earth was not a closed system. The discussion started with Our self-importance makes us want to believe that science is the ultimate authority, yet I haven't been able to figure out how it demonstrates superior intelligence to acknowledge that matter goes from order to disorder over time, but if you give it enough time it goes from disorder to incredibly complex order.

It is generally accepted that the original statement(order to disorder) is true when the word spontaneously is used. And yes I inadvertantly omitted the "not" just before the closed. My aim should be apparent from my use of "although", my general argument, and my acknowledgement of the introduction of energy to the systems I named.

683 posted on 11/08/2005 5:51:20 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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