[highball]

Science is not supposed to be about ideology. It is supposed to be about what we can KNOW as differentiated from "interesting sounding fictions".

Congratulations. You have stated the argument against ID quite clearly.

[Havoc]

Well, that would appear to be the argument you proffer. The problem is that observation led scientists to this position.
They are now trying to quantify it. You don't even want to hear the argument because implicit in it is something detestable to your ideology. Vade retro is telling me how ID establishes a religion, etc.. which is utter nonsense. ID merely posits that there is an intelligence at work in what they observe. And said observation is coming from guys who are largely non-Christians or a-religious. It would seem that their conclusions support the notions of Christianity and thusly rile everyone opposed to it - including, it would seem, Rome. Go figure lol