[Coyoteman]

Also, Old Earth creationism goes back perhaps another 10K years to the Flood event. OEC and YEC would agree that it can't predate the appearance of Homo sapiens.

Sites in the western US older than about 11,000 are in short supply, so I have no experience there.

I thought we were talking somewhere in the 4,000-5,000 year range for the flood for YEC and 4 or so billions for OEC?

[The Red Zone]

OEC generally takes the bible chronicles seriously, allowing for some uncertainty where several generations are wrapped up in the name of an ultimate notable male descendant. Judging by such abbreviational gaps in chronologies we do know through more than one document, and the legendary long span of those lives, that would put a plausible upper limit of about 20,000 years on how far back the Flood was. A literal million year old mankind would be difficult but not absolutely impossible in this view. How far back are the earliest signs of trans-mortal thinking in what we today call Homo sapiens as marked by decorations and marked artifacts at grave sites? Adam would have to be further back than that. But before awareness of the trans-mortal, we would only have monkeys.