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To: FeeinTennessee

Evolution is quite compatible with a belief in God. God is the intelligent designer. The laws of physics, chemistry, and biology are His handiwork and His tools for Creation. The flaw with ID is not that it posits an Intelligent Designer, but that it purports to be able to use science to prove His existence.

You point to that wonderful galaxy with planets aligned so neatly and everything in order. But perhaps it's not so neat as you can see in our own solar system. As we do more and more exploration we find that there are numerous solar systems in the galaxy, most of which do not have the neat alignment. How many solar systems came into being where a giant planet spiraled in towards the systems' Suns and ejected all the planets (computer modeling says the answer is likely 'most'). How many stars are either too hot or too cold to support life? The galaxy itself, as well as the stars in it, are a lot more dynamic than you seem to think.


33 posted on 11/07/2005 12:27:36 PM PST by RonF
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To: RonF

Not to mention that Pluto is hardly in neat alignment with anything, and it's not as if the other planets are particularly uniform either.

http://vathena.arc.nasa.gov/curric/space/planets/planorbi.html

Their inclinations and eccentricities are all different. Pluto is especially weird; I hear it's not even considered a planet anymore.


39 posted on 11/07/2005 12:31:16 PM PST by Sols
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To: RonF

"Evolution is quite compatible with a belief in God. God is the intelligent designer. The laws of physics, chemistry, and biology are His handiwork and His tools for Creation. The flaw with ID is not that it posits an Intelligent Designer, but that it purports to be able to use science to prove His existence."

Well put!

Answer, meet nutshell.


83 posted on 11/07/2005 12:54:41 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: RonF
"Evolution is quite compatible with a belief in God. God is the intelligent designer. The laws of physics, chemistry, and biology are His handiwork and His tools for Creation. The flaw with ID is not that it posits an Intelligent Designer, but that it purports to be able to use science to prove His existence. "

The other major flaw with ID is that it posits that the mechanism the creator designed in order to change life (evolution through natural selection) is somehow unequal to the task and the creator had to actually do all the heavy lifting (by some unknown, unpredictable, unquantifiable mechanism). So the major flaw with ID is that they believe in an incompetent creator.
220 posted on 11/07/2005 1:50:41 PM PST by USConstitutionBuff
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To: RonF
The flaw with ID is not that it posits an Intelligent Designer, but that it purports to be able to use science to prove His existence.

Thats the best, most succinct summation of the flaws of ID I've seen today. Good job.

520 posted on 11/07/2005 8:00:52 PM PST by curiosity (Cronyism is not conservative)
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