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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

ps: Survivor, the Dutch have made sure they have BLURRED teh lines in the explanation of "edited". They have DELIBERATELY attempted to portray this as manipulated. The FACT is, the entire interview was video taped as well as recorded. How can they say that Deepak said the OPPOSITE of what the whole world heard him say??


1,221 posted on 11/25/2005 9:23:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

ps: Survivor, the Dutch have made sure they have BLURRED teh lines in the explanation of "edited". They have DELIBERATELY attempted to portray this as manipulated. The FACT is, the entire interview was video taped as well as recorded. How can they say that Deepak said the OPPOSITE of what the whole world heard him say??


1,222 posted on 11/25/2005 9:42:38 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I wish Mark had been on that flight with Beth, Jug and friends on May 31st.


1,223 posted on 11/25/2005 9:44:22 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: shebacal

Ah, blow the f****ing thing up!! OR let it sit there with NO American dollars being spent in the shops. Excuse my language but my anger against this little piss cutter Island is red hot!!


1,224 posted on 11/25/2005 9:49:07 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: Canadian Outrage
How can they say that Deepak said the OPPOSITE of what the whole world heard him say??
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That's a great question, CO.

I can tell you how they are trying to spin this.
They've said the Dr Phil tape is manipulated. Interesting choice of word, kind of secretive sounding. Like someone did something wrong. Saying it was 'edited for TV' would not serve their agenda.

Now they've created enough confusion to think they can slip the 'did' and 'didn't' claim in to cause further doubt.

The question hanging in the air is, why does the Dr Phil tape matter when they have the uncut, authenticated DVD from Skeeters?

There is something that Skeeters said that has given me pause for thought. Skeeters said the few seconds shown on Dr Phil's show was taken from over an hour and half of tape.
It caught my attention that Skeeters said 'an hour and a half' when there is about 2 and a half hours of total taped interview. So Skeeters narrowed the time frame of two sentences from Deepak down to less than the total interview.

Think about that for a moment.

The quotes of Deepak saying 'she did' and 'you wouldn't believe how easy it was' might not be back to back in the unedited interview. I think Skeeters is trying to get that point across without going into detail. At the same time, Skeeters seems to be indicating that the two phrases do go together even if not said back to back in the interview.

I'm guessing Skeeters came back to the topic later in the interview and got the 'you wouldn't believe how easy it was' response from Deepak. Dr Phil then condensed it making it seem Deepak's responses occurred back to back.

Hopefully, we will hear more of the taped interview soon and get this clarified. Either way, I think Deepak essentially said what we heard on Dr Phil's show.
1,225 posted on 11/25/2005 9:51:59 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: RGVTx

You could be right about the way it was done RGVTx BUT Jamie Skeeters stated that he nearly fell off his chair at their assertion. He is on his way to Aruba to meet with Dumpig. Holland can try all they want but their little lab is a backyard shed operation compared to the FBI LAB. Even Dumpig said that if Deepak said "she didn't" then the next sentence "and you wouldn't believe how easy it was" wouldn't make sense. GREAT DEDUCTION DumPIG!!

I don't know about you but I strongly suspect that there is a covert investigation/operation going on behind the scenes by "special people". Beth AND Dave are DETERMINED to get their answers one way or the other. They will do it with or without these Dutch dip$hits!!


1,226 posted on 11/25/2005 10:03:28 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: Canadian Outrage
The forces that are against any disclosure of what happened to Natalee are immense.

Besides this big development which will depend on tourist dollars, there is a Ritz Carlton hotel going in next to the Merriott. Bad publicity puts these million dollar projects at risk.

Then there are all the existing hotels and casinos that can be hurt by bad publicity.

There are the banks that loan the money for construction.

There are the PVDS, and all their friends in the ALE who want to protect them. One exposure leads to another and there is all the vice on the island that must be protected.
1,227 posted on 11/25/2005 10:11:10 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

I know Sheba - it's complicated and it's a mess. But that very fact alone makes a boycott EXTREMELY effective. Even if the boycott only cuts the tourist dollars in half. But it looks to me so far, that it is cutting it even more than that. That's one reason that I can't figure out WHY the Aruban ALE wouldn't at least return Natalee's body. They may never prosecute anyone but Beth can bury her daughter and she KNOWS that Justice will prevail, perhaps on this earth, perhaps not, but it WILL be done. If I were these guys I'd rather repent on this earth than to face an angry God and have to stand before HIM as a Murderer and Liar, and thief and extortioner etc. etc. etc. One thing we know, Beth is NOT going to give up EVER and I know our group never will, and I think that at least FOX will continue to cover this to a degree ad infinitum. Aruba is gonna get HURT regardless!


1,228 posted on 11/25/2005 10:21:59 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/.

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Some comments from Jaime Skeeters
November 26th, 2005

There seems to be much confusion with the tapes/CD’s that were sent to Holland to be examined. Jaime Skeeter’s CD’s that he provided have be authenticated as being genuine. According to Dompig, Dutch forensic investigators heard Deepak say, “he didn’t” from the tapes. Skeeters claims that “even his grandmother” could hear the tapes he provided the ALE and Skeeters stands behind his comment that Deepak said, “he did”. What does Dompig claim he heard?

One question also remains, which tape/CD is Dompig referring to that they Dutch are saying is Deepak’s denial? The so called manipulated tape; is this the tape they state Deepak’s denial, or is it Skeeter’s, or both? The following are some quick comments from Jaime Skeeters with regards to the tape and Dompig’s comments that he gave exclusively to Scared Monkeys.

Dompig told me that he can hear Deepak make the statement “we did…and you would be surprise how simple it was..” on my CD.

Dompig also stated that the Phil tapes are not that clear and it sounds like “we didn’t… and you would be surprise how simple it was”.

I asked Dompig if Deepak had said “we didn’t” then why in the hell did he immediately follow up with..”and you would be surprise how simple it was”.

Dompig agreed with me that the follow up statement makes sense with “we did”and not with the statement “we didn’t”..

I told Dompig that I have never seen or heard the Phil tapes that he down loaded from my CD. I also told him that “most” everyone knows that when you down load something off a CD to beta/VHS tapes that you lose at lease one full generation of clarity.

Dompig stated that he understood that but sense he has two sets of tapes that he must send them in for verification. I explained that Phil tapes are not altered, they are edited.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/.

1,229 posted on 11/25/2005 10:36:23 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I can't figure out WHY the Aruban ALE wouldn't at least return Natalee's body

Are you thinking of when the police were digging out near the lighthouse then tarps were put up as if to shield something and people were kept away? I don't remember what day that happened, but I did see some pictures of when it was happening.

1,230 posted on 11/25/2005 10:42:27 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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I asked Dompig if Deepak had said “we didn’t” then why in the hell did he immediately follow up with..”and you would be surprise how simple it was”.
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Thanks, Sheba.
Glad to see this clarified. Now I wonder why Skeeters said what we heard was taken from and hour and a half of tape. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly.


1,231 posted on 11/25/2005 11:03:48 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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re: 1075

well, who doesn't get a ton of spam? but these are unusual, have been flooding in just since my virulent communications with aruban authorities, to whom i have replied with caustic force verbally, and the timing comes right after this exchange began...in all my years online i have never received spam of this nature before and i am certain it contains a virus...just a heads-up for others, including the whimsical FBI one...maybe its bin laden, my other whipping post(ho! ho! up on the mountain with ol' st. bin; that's when the missles come raining in), but methinks this comes from the island of pirates


1,232 posted on 11/26/2005 5:46:09 AM PST by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: RGVTx

one of the part time freeper posters made the point somewhere back that in a gang rape/manslaughter case it would be very doubtful urine, dickpak, swish or penis would initiate threats to potential searchers and other americans coming to the island with an interest in natalee, which is an astute observation and crucial point to wonder on for all of us today...why would death threats be given to the holloway family and searchers? what are they getting close to? who and what are they near to exposing? this fits dr. phil's scenario better...and i remember the blue tarp day that seemed to be something going on, that's for certain, but why hide the body after announcing it had been found? unless it was someone else, and on an island claiming to have no crime, and several keep bobbing up, it would seem a little too much for the PR spin...anyway, the death threats are significant if not coming from a nut...it implies we are stepping into unknown turf with unknown crimes occuring there by perps that wish to remain invisible...i'm starting to think ALE knows exactly what happened with natalee, just as they did with amy bradley, and they are used to hiding everything under the rug of incompetence...how are we to believe that every single person on the ALE and this crime is a barney fife idiot? all of them? impossible; more than one is stretching it...yet no one wants to be a hero and spill the beans, because they know the real story is more destructive and threatening than the one out already...well, just some thoughts for the day and interested in what each of us is thinking


1,233 posted on 11/26/2005 6:02:40 AM PST by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: shebacal

No I wasn't referring to that day although that is important also. But in the very early days there was an announcement that there WAS a body. Then whoops, there is no body (suddenly retracted). There is a confession. Then whoops, there is no confession (suddenly retracted). On and on like this. I believe they had Natalee's body or evidence of where it was right in the very beginning. Then Paulus Van der Sloot got into the mix with the Justice Department. Your right, they could well have been digging Natalee up from her Original grave but we also know that that would be covered up also. ALE knows exactly what happened to Natalee, exactly where her body is, and exactly WHO killed her.


1,234 posted on 11/26/2005 3:45:34 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: nuntukamen

I think your right. Aruba may now try to "infect" those of us who have emailed them with hostile verbal whippings. No matter what they do, it will not "release" them.


1,235 posted on 11/26/2005 3:48:22 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: nuntukamen

nuntuk I just can't buy that Natalee was sold. What I think is the crux here is that Natalee WAS murdered. Then it slips out there was a body, then no body, then a confession, then no confession, PVDS calling a "meeting" to set the RULES of how this is to go: manipulate hard drives so as to change times and establish false alibis; don't use cell phones, everybody stick to the same story; then the corker, "no body, no case". I don't think it is WHAT happened here it is WHO is involved that has made this a very corrupt and complicated matter. PVDS and his sociopathic spawn are the KEY. If it had been the Kalpoe bros. and some other guy, the case would have been solved in the first week. The connected person here is PVDS and he's using his connections. I'd like to see him and his son suddenly disappear. Perhaps that can be arranged.


1,236 posted on 11/26/2005 3:56:54 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: nuntukamen; Canadian Outrage; Vn_survivor_67-68; No Surrender No Retreat; justche; MAWG; RGVTx; ...
...yet no one wants to be a hero and spill the beans, because they know the real story is more destructive and threatening than the one out already...

A few years ago, several people went to jail rather than testify against the clintons, including the man many believe is Chelsea's father. Jail was preferable to "arkancide." In Aruba it is called ... uhhh ... whatever they call it when your throat is cut.

1,237 posted on 11/26/2005 5:02:50 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Good point, Lucy.
I think the throat cutting is called a necktie...Columbian necktie or something like that.

It still boggles my mind that we heard Web Hubble say "I guess I'll have to roll over one more time" and nothing became of it. He rolled over and clinton slid on down the road.


1,238 posted on 11/26/2005 5:15:59 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: Canadian Outrage

well, as protected as the slooters are, i don't think there is any reason (especially when they aren't even in the country)why they would feel a need to threaten the lives of people who obviously are not going to care or who regard the threat as harmless--dickpak and swish are as menacing as tweetybird (and wouldn't be half the challenge tweety is in confrontational action)...so who is there who can issue that threat with some clout behind it? and why are they involved and what are they protecting? this is costing the casino and other businesses millions in the long run, so none of them are going to the wall over the slooters, especially a sweaty little wimp like paulus (who i feel had an intimate experience with natalee regardless of which scenario turns out to be true)...then we have the barney fife syndrome that the ALE is relying on; are they really that stupid or is it a reliance on a clever act, one that organized crime has perfected over years of playing invisible monopoly with many faces, many lives...who knows? not even the shadow knows in this case, and while i accept the rape/manslaughter or murder scenario and have since the beginning, just as you have framed it into a clear picture, yet i realize that would be a simple open and shut case, and this is not...not even close, so after awhile one has to sense a stronger hidden presence behind the veil of mystery; why is this game in extra innings when calling it would have been the umps best way out?


1,239 posted on 11/26/2005 5:23:40 PM PST by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: nuntukamen; Canadian Outrage; RGVTx
why is this game in extra innings when calling it would have been the umps best way out?

OK, here is my opinion.

Because both Paulus and Van der Slatten are involved in the cover-up. Both worked in the justice system/LE for many years, and had the opportunity to learn secrets about many Arubans.

Now, they're calling in their chips. [i.e. you keep your mouth shut, and I won't disclose what I know about you.]

1,240 posted on 11/26/2005 5:35:13 PM PST by LucyT
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