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To: Zon
"It's a communitarian collectivism potion that sacrifices the individual to the good of the group and while depriving people of a society of self-governed persons."

"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816.

679 posted on 11/08/2005 12:22:12 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816.

Individuals that make up a society can be manipulated by propaganda to accept tyranny of the majority--mob rule. A dumbed down citizenry will make self-defeating choices predicated on irrational principles.

Also in1916 Jefferson wrote:

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816.

Eight years latter Jefferson wrote thisin1824:

"We had never been permitted to exercise self-government. When forced to assume it, we were novices in its science. Its principles and forms had entered little into our former education. We established some, although not all its important principles." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824 [Emphasis mine.].

Jefferson continued educating himself in many areas. Probably none more so than his ongoing understanding of the principles underpinning self-government Identifying errors and correcting them as he progressed.

The progression didn't stop with Jefferson. Thus my suggestion for the three Articles at 591

683 posted on 11/08/2005 1:38:11 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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