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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Sorry, do not remember the reference, as you were the "eggspurt" I was hoping you knew of the tests. And could shed some light on it.

As for the ordering of the fossil layers, it is the whole foundation for era dating of fossils, obviously also outside your field, as 312 and 213 layering completely disproves era dating, yet can be observed easily in the field. It is harder to explain size sorting to a complete novice, but it is based in Physics of fluid dynamics in that deposits of debris in a stream tends to be sorted by size. This is why fossils are most often found sorted by size, and type as the stream flow dynamics tends to sort objects based on similar friction coefficients vs mass charaistics. In simpler terms, the stream tends to push objects along until changes in flow cause objects to no longer be pushed. This stacks similar objects together and is why fossils not only tend to be of the same object, like snails with like snails but tend to be sorted not only by type but by size in different parts of the fossil field.

It is such a perfect example of faith based science I was hoping you had some real field experience.

As for more interesting dynamics in fossil creation is that it does not occur naturally with animals, it takes an electric field to cause mineralization before the animal rots. This occurs naturally only when the forces that bury the animal also cause great dissimilar mineral mixing. The chemical re balancing of the dissimilar minerals create the necessary ionic mineral flow. You see this effect in bullets picked up out of streams, sometimes a mineral donut forms around the lead bullet and the brass case. The organic acidic bacterial action of the stream bed causes a small battery action with the dissimilar metals that causes sandstone to form around the bullet.

This same action in the flood or volcanic ash deposits occurs when metal bearing minerals are crushed and ground by radical flood action or deposited in mineral bearing volcanic ash.

This thesis has been observed in the stream beds of Mt Saint Helen's, and has been observed often by gold panners in the mother load. After all, if sandstone takes thousands of years to form, Winchester is a very old company.

Of course this does bring to mind, where did all that organic material come from that is buried so deep as to make oil deposits. Giant prehistoric armored earth worm migrations, like the B movies or a planetary flood event? You figure which has more scientific probability.

Funny thing about Freeper land, you never know just who you are talking too. Sometimes us "running out of argument, scientific ignoramus types" actually do have a background that is relevant.

181 posted on 10/23/2005 2:13:39 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

You have no citations on modern eggshell or elephant bones dated umpty million years ago.

I'm not surprised.

For the lurkers: no citations on anything else either. A pseudo-citation contraverting rather than supporting the argument in one case.

Bearing false witness.


187 posted on 10/23/2005 2:23:35 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: American in Israel
"Sorry, do not remember the reference, as you were the "eggspurt" I was hoping you knew of the tests."

You make a ridiculous claim, then can't back it up, so all you have left now are insults? It's now MY fault you made a baseless claim you couldn't support?

"Funny thing about Freeper land, you never know just who you are talking too. Sometimes us "running out of argument, scientific ignoramus types" actually do have a background that is relevant."

Sometimes we get lucky and only have to deal with people like you. :)
195 posted on 10/23/2005 2:34:55 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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