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To: malakhi
Straw man arguement my @ss. that's exactly what evolution theory states. maybe you need to go and re-read what the thoery IS.

You can repeat that to yourself over and over, but it isn't going to change the facts."

FACTS!!!??? WHAT FACTS???? there isn't ONE FACT about evolution theory that holds water, But by all means, name them. is it a FACT that somehow an "entity" formed in nothing, from nothing exploded and evolved into everything?? That's no fact!!! That is a BELIEF, a RELIGION. It requires a leap of faith. And that's just the beginning. Somehow, it rained on a rock floating in space (with no atmosphere) for millions of years, creating rock soup, and somehow organic life sprang forth out of nothing, suddenly a cell formed, and in order to do that, a DNA atom with a library of complex information just "happened" to form, all these other ingredients just "happened" to be there at the same time, and them, if that isn't miraculous enough all life came from that over billions of years. HA! that isn't FACT!

34 posted on 10/03/2005 8:09:41 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
FACTS!!!??? WHAT FACTS???? there isn't ONE FACT about evolution theory that holds water,

How about the fact that humans and chimpanzees share about 98% sequence similarity, including broken genes and other junk DNA.

38 posted on 10/03/2005 8:17:55 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Nathan Zachary
Straw man arguement my @ss. that's exactly what evolution theory states.

Really?

Can you point me to a source which states that evolution theory predicts that a frog pulverized in a blender will spontaneously reassemble?

This is, after all, what you are claiming evolution theory EXACTLY states.

FACTS!!!??? WHAT FACTS???? there isn't ONE FACT about evolution theory that holds water

You can cover your eyes and ears all you want. That you refuse to accept it doesn't change reality.

is it a FACT that somehow an "entity" formed in nothing, from nothing exploded and evolved into everything?? That's no fact!!! That is a BELIEF, a RELIGION. It requires a leap of faith. And that's just the beginning. Somehow, it rained on a rock floating in space (with no atmosphere) for millions of years, creating rock soup, and somehow organic life sprang forth out of nothing, suddenly a cell formed, and in order to do that, a DNA atom with a library of complex information just "happened" to form, all these other ingredients just "happened" to be there at the same time, and them, if that isn't miraculous enough all life came from that over billions of years. HA! that isn't FACT!

As you have undoubtedly been told numerous times, evolution theory says NOTHING about the origin of life. If that is your sole objection, then you can breathe easier.

47 posted on 10/03/2005 8:26:18 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Nathan Zachary
Straw man arguement my @ss. that's exactly what evolution theory states. maybe you need to go and re-read what the thoery IS.

The theory of evolution does not say that a blended frog will reassemble itself. For you to assert that it does indicates that you are ignorant of the theory. For you to demand that others accept your false definition indicates that you are fundamentally dishonest.

If you disagree, then present the relevant portion of the theory of evolution that you believe implies what you claim.
49 posted on 10/03/2005 8:28:20 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

If you want to "observe" something, toss a frog in a blender then let the mixture of everything needed for life to create itself sit in the sun. Of course, that would be cheating, but if evolution theory is correct, the frog should remake itself.
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You state that the above is "exactly what evolution theory states", can you point me to the page in Darwin's book where it states this.

I did not know that they had blenders in his day. I wonder if he was a daquiri or a margarita kind of guy.


72 posted on 10/03/2005 9:12:45 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Nathan Zachary; malakhi
"Straw man arguement my @ss. that's exactly what evolution theory states. maybe you need to go and re-read what the thoery IS.

Here is the Theory of Evolution

malakhi You can repeat that to yourself over and over, but it isn't going to change the facts."

"FACTS!!!??? WHAT FACTS???? there isn't ONE FACT about evolution theory that holds water, But by all means, name them.

Natural selection, Allele variation within a population, adaptation, homology, speciation, mutations, fossil sequences,...

"is it a FACT that somehow an "entity" formed in nothing, from nothing exploded and evolved into everything?? That's no fact!!!

Nor is it evolution. It sounds more like a cross between the Big Bang and abiogenesis. You may have trouble differentiating between fields of science. It might be an idea to look into that since knowing the difference might help in your undestanding.

"That is a BELIEF, a RELIGION. It requires a leap of faith.

I assume you also include Cosmology, Physics - particularly quantum mechanics, Math - since it is impossible to show that all math is self-consistant (Godel), Astronomy, Geology, Geophysics (tectonics in particular), all of Biology of course, chemistry, and a number of other fields of science in that 'faith based' collapsing wave function of yours.

"And that's just the beginning. Somehow, it rained on a rock floating in space (with no atmosphere) for millions of years, creating rock soup, and somehow organic life sprang forth out of nothing, suddenly a cell formed, and in order to do that, a DNA atom with a library of complex information just "happened" to form, all these other ingredients just "happened" to be there at the same time, and them, if that isn't miraculous enough all life came from that over billions of years. HA! that isn't FACT!

Just a suggestion - maybe you should look into what science says about the early days of Earth before you trundle off, create some fantasy world replete with easily defeated enemies, then impress us with your ability to devastate those enemies. Very imaginative strawman. Fiction is definitely your strong point.

163 posted on 10/03/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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