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To: King Prout

Indeed. The great insight that Malthus had was that populations either check themselves, or the environment does it for them. For this we are apparently supposed to revile him, along with Darwin, and if the original poster's second link is to be believed, along with Edmund Burke. I'm not sure what we're to make of this when that same page says that Marxists rejected Malthus - apparently, here on the New Free Republic, Darwin and Edmund Burke are bad, because they were influenced by Malthus, and Marx is good because he rejected Malthus. And this is somehow "conservative". What a mess.


11 posted on 09/29/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re; King Prout
From my link: "Edmund Burke's ideas were taken up by conservatives and that's one reason why they have proved less likely to be seduced by Malthusian-like warnings such as eugenics in the 1920s, the 'Population Bomb' in the 1960s, and more recently warnings about environmental catastrophe. Experience and history teach, they say, that the human race has more than enough ability to overcome obstacles and continue to improve its condition."

The link says that Burke opposed elitist utopianism while Malthus embraced it.

26 posted on 09/29/2005 3:19:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: general_re

I wish there were more people who reviled both Charles Darwin and Edmund Burke at once. It would make my enemies all the more obvious.


60 posted on 09/29/2005 5:20:06 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Bring back Modernman!)
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To: general_re

some depths surpass my ability to plumb


62 posted on 09/29/2005 5:34:34 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: general_re
The great insight that Malthus had was that populations either check themselves, or the environment does it for them. For this we are apparently supposed to revile him, along with Darwin, and if the original poster's second link is to be believed, along with Edmund Burke.

Don't forget Adam Smith. We also have to hate Evil capitalism.

128 posted on 09/30/2005 1:39:59 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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