Darwin and Malthus

PBS ^ | 2001

[Tailgunner Joe]

If you had been following the "crevo" threads you would know that the current controversy is about the ACLU suing a Pennsylvania school for teaching precisely what you claim, that God may in fact be responsible for evolution. Evolusheviks and their ACLU lawyers don't like it one bit.

[jb6]

Evolution, Theistic: One of three main cosmogonies (models of origins) commonly accepted in North America. It accepts the observations of naturalistic evolution but states that God guided and used evolution as a method of forming the multiplicity of species of life, the rest of the Earth and the rest of the universe.

[MineralMan]

Joe,

Repeat this a few hundred times:

The Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with the beginnings of life or with the beginnings of the universe. It only has to do with speciation.

There is not a darned thing in the Theory of Evolution that would oppose creation of the universe and the initial creation of life by some deity. Nothing.

[MineralMan]

"Evolution, Theistic: One of three main cosmogonies (models of origins) commonly accepted in North America. It accepts the observations of naturalistic evolution but states that God guided and used evolution as a method of forming the multiplicity of species of life, the rest of the Earth and the rest of the universe.
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Right. And that does not conflict in any way with the Theory of Evolution, which says nothing about the origins of life itself or of the universe. There's no conflict.

[Tailgunner Joe]

So if I believe that God created Man in His Own image, is that compatible with the THEORY of evolution?

[jb6]

Orthodoxy and Creationism

In believing the Young Earth theory, you propogate the theories of pagan Greeks and Indians not the teachings of the Apostals.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Thanks for more insults and slander. You're so Christian.

[js1138]

The great insight that Malthus had was that populations either check themselves, or the environment does it for them. For this we are apparently supposed to revile him, along with Darwin, and if the original poster's second link is to be believed, along with Edmund Burke.

Don't forget Adam Smith. We also have to hate Evil capitalism.

[MineralMan]

'In believing the Young Earth theory..."

Me? Nope. Wrong guy.

[jb6]

No not you, just added you to the post as something of interest.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Do you believe that God created man in His Own image?

[MineralMan]

"So if I believe that God created Man in His Own image, is that compatible with the THEORY of evolution?"

Sure. Not a problem. It all depends on how your deity made humans in his own image. Now, you must understand that I don't believe that at all, but that's beside the point.

If your deity is omnipotent, then it could have made man anyway it wished, including making man by having mankind evolve from simpler critters.

What is your deity's "image" anyhow? Does it look like a human being? Does it have a human being's parts? Or...just perhaps...does not not look anything like a human. What's your concept of the appearance of your deity?

[jb6]

Do you believe that God created man in His Own image?

Yes but not in the limited pagan view that you are pushing, because a physical view is a pagan view. God created man in his image spiritually. We have a soul that is a kin to God and is a part of God. We have the free will to choose between good or evil.

[atlaw]

jb6: Are you trying to link those who believe in Evolution with pro-abortionists?

Tailgunner Joe: I have found this to be the case.

I happen to know some evilutioninikinoids (a/k/a "biologists"), and I know for a fact that they sleep underground during the day. At night they gather around a barrel-fire and sing:

By the light of the silvery moon,
I want to spoon,
to my honey I'll croon,
about lovely alleles,
mutating to the light of the moon.

Then they get drunk, put more tape on their glasses, and throw their pocket protectors into the fire.

Evil cretins.

[Tailgunner Joe]

He looks kind of like this:

[jb6]

Man is made in God's image spiritually not physically. How can He who has no form but is everything and in all things make man in His "physical" image? Of course, what happens if there is an alien species out there, whose image were they created in?

[Tailgunner Joe]

I don't know about you (I won't lie and falsely put words in your mouth as you have done to me) but I believe that Christ is a not just God in spirit, but also a Man in the literal flesh.

[jb6]

Sorry to blurst your bubble, but in Christ, God took on the form of man physically. There is a reason why no icons of God the Father are painted, only of Christ, God the Son. There is a reason why even saying the Father's name in ancient Judea was an instant death sentence.

[Mylo]

How dense are you Tailgummer?

You cannot dispute my quotes as they were all publicly given or in published books by Hitler.

Hitler could be as anti-Christian as he wanted SECRETLY. It doesn't change one whit the HISTORICAL FACT that he used his speeches and writings to stir up Christian sentiment against the Jews using Christian rhetoric.

Do you understand this one simple point? Or are you so willfully ignorant that you cannot see it?

[Tailgunner Joe]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.