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Toespi, is it only when they are convicted that we learn their names? Or when the prosecutor decides to prosecute the individual as an adult?

I'm trying to remember, because it seems that the identities of certain underaged killers have been known . . . but my timing as to the revelation of their identities may be off . . .


1,283 posted on 08/24/2005 5:53:35 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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8-22-05 Recap
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On 8-22 BETH told “CNN” that an unnamed 17 year old ARUBAN woman is getting ready to go to the ARUBA prosecutor and tell about a Spring 2005 date-rape by Main Suspect J. SLOOT that also involved a date-rape drug. The woman has retained an unnamed, male, ARUBAN attorney according to ART WOOD. WOOD also reported that the woman has 2 ARUBAN friends who “had a similar experience” to the drugged date-rape by Main Suspect J. SLOOT. EDUARDO MANSUR was present when WOOD spoke with the 3 women today. WOOD also reported that other women may come forward.

On 8-22 BETH stated that last week they met with, and now they have hired ARUBAN attorney MARY LEJUEZ. LEJUEZ has experience as a Prosecutor, Chief Prosecutor, Deputy Attorney General of Aruba. And has represented Aruba in several United Nations General Assemblies, A.O.S Conferences and Money Laundry Conferences in U.S.A., Europe and Central America, is the Co-founder of a Legal Aid Center in Aruba, served on the board of several foundations and the National Council for Women, and consults for numerous prestigious international companies. Among other things BETH mentioned that LEJUEZ’s “fresh pair of eyes” may help them to “cover every base.”

On 8-22 BETH said that the 8-20, 30-minute meeting between BETH and ODUBER was arranged by BOB DILILLA. BETH said that ODUBER agreed that the 3 Suspect boys should not have been released from custody on 5-31. BETH told “FoxNews” “I wanted to make it perfectly clear to him that there is no way I will accept not having answers to where Natalee is. “I am not going to accept that, especially with how poorly the investigation was handled in the beginning. Incredible mistakes where made early on.” “We certainly would not want to prosecute the wrong individuals.” BETH emphasized that ODUBER and BRIESEN “are the only two officials who have stepped forward to me on the island” and she respects them for that. BETH stated again that she has had no communication from/with JANSSEN since the last time.

On 8-22 BETH said that GOLBA searched today in the dunes near the “California” lighthouse, and GOLBA has spoken about expanding towards the area between the lighthouse to the “Marriott Hotel” beach fishermens huts. BETH also said that there may be another ocean dive on 8-23.

On 8-22 BETH said that she had heard that the police have located the anonymous tipster/jogger, but she Is not certain he has been located.

On 8-22 CLIVE PAULA told “CNN” that the ocean floor area that he and 5 other divers voluntarily searched 8-21 was about 500’ by 200. Visibility was good but the divers found nothing significant. PAULA said there is a planned dive for 8-25, and hopefully at least one more after that.

On 8-22 LACLE happened to see, then speak with Current Suspect P. SLOOT at the office of Main Suspect J. SLOOT’s lawyer. The lawyer was hesitant about the two men being there and speaking, but Current Suspect P. SLOOT did speak with LACLE. LACLE would not comment about much of what they spoke about, and only said Current Suspect P. SLOOT “was not sweating” and appeared relaxed. He also said that ANITA is working again at the “Aruba International School.”

On 8-22 LACLE reported that the judge’s decision expected today about the appeal of defense lawyers to obtain more of the Main Suspect J. SLOOT interrogations videotapes, interrogations transcripts, and transcripts of police-tapped phone calls of Suspects was not made. LACLE said a decision could come 8-23, or next week. The defense lawyers have said that they are not receiving investigation information at all, or, not receiving it in a timely manner. LACLE said that the prosecution does have a right to withhold information if the information can harm an on-going investigation.

On 8-22 SCHIPPER said that there is, apparently, enough evidence that a judge sees in the prosecutor’s investigation file to hold Main Suspect J. SLOOT, but the defense seems to be saying they do not see enough to hold their Suspect, so, SCHIPPER speculates that there must be evidence that is being withheld.

On 8-22 LACLE reported that a polygraph expert is in ARUBA. The polygrapher’s name is JAMIE SKEETER and BETH has met him, but NATALEE‘s family did not hire him.

On 8-22 CATHY CADMUS (SHELBY CADMUS’ mother) told “FoxNews” that they believe Main Suspect J. SLOOT is completely innocent. (O’REILLY would not name CADMUS) CADMUS said that her family and the Suspects SLOOT’s family became friends around 2001, and during the month of August of 2002 Main Suspect J. SLOOT stayed with them in NJ and went to a camp with SHELBY. She described the two teens as becoming “very close,” and admitted that they allowed the 15 year olds to drink. CADMUS said the family’s are still friends and staying in close contact during the investigation.

On 8-22 it was reported that Current Suspect P. SLOOT has not hired RIZZO, but RIZZO did offer his services to them. RIZZO said he will be in ARUBA circa 9-4.

On 8-22 it was reported that the prison fight that Main Suspect J. SLOOT may have been a participant in circa 8-1 occurred during a prison soccer game, and was broken up by prison guards after the shorter combatant landed some good blows onto Main Suspect J. SLOOT.

On 8-22 “MSNBC” showed film of Current Suspect D. KALPOE returning to “Carlos ‘n Charlies” the evening of 8-19.

On 8-22 ZANDT told “MSNBC” that while he was in ARUBA last week he was told that multiple women “from multiple nationalities” are coming forward to ARUBAN police with allegations of predatory sexual advances on them by Main Suspect J. SLOOT.
1,284 posted on 08/24/2005 6:07:11 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

A preliminary hearing decides the adult/juvenile status of a suspect. The trial judge makes the decision based upon evidence which is presented by the prosecution and can be argued by the defense. Only then, can the identity of a juvenile be revealed.


1,287 posted on 08/24/2005 6:11:53 AM PDT by Toespi
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