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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: Malichi
I think we all need to get together at a central location for a well deserved cold beer after this is all over.

Bump!

(As long as it isn't at a CnC...)

1,261 posted on 08/23/2005 11:21:46 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Canadian Outrage
I heard him say that and I don't believe it.

I actually didn't believe Kock either.

I won't believe it till some of the other MB students say it's true. Or other witnesses in the CnC.

I don't believe any of the liars (er, I mean lawyers) who are weighing in.

1,262 posted on 08/23/2005 11:28:13 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: RGVTx

Just getting ready to sign off, when I saw this.

He had the audacity to yell it.

Greta,yank him off the air. NOW.

/Tito
/Tito
/Tito


1,263 posted on 08/23/2005 11:29:18 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; ...
Hannity and Colmes:

Jug Twitty:

Its a small island. The whole island is connected. There are a lot of people that know what happened to Natalee. It will all come out. It will eventually all come out.

1,264 posted on 08/23/2005 11:29:44 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: texasbluebell; Canadian Outrage

texasbluebell Koch stated that the MB students know that this is included in the records.


1,265 posted on 08/23/2005 11:32:14 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Aruba must register lesbian marriage

This just has to be the Twilight Zone.

I just know Rod Serling is lurking.

1,266 posted on 08/23/2005 11:36:22 PM PDT by b9
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To: stlnative
all I can say is if you have good smooth tequila you don't need salt or lime. The rest of it is a common bar/party game with 2 people working together trying not to spill the booze from the shot glass as the 2 people involved are not allowed to use their hands at any point. It is not a dirty or wild thing and anyone that is under the age of 40 or 45 probably knows about body shots even if they only party once in a great while.

Heck, this doesn't even sound risque to me. If any of you have seen the old Cary Grant movie with Audrey Hepburn, called Charade, this reminds me of a bar game that was played in that movie from 1964.

An orange was placed under a woman's neck, then the man (Cary) tried to grab onto the orange with his own neck, and tried to wrest that orange from the woman's neck to pass it onto another woman's neck (Audrey).

It made for a verrry interesting sort of game, if I do say so.

There's nothing new under the sun.

Not even belly shots, or navel shots, or whatever. That was a 40 year old movie! Jelly shots, my eye.

1,267 posted on 08/23/2005 11:38:57 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: TexKat

Really. That's interesting. Missed it.


1,268 posted on 08/23/2005 11:51:49 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; ...
From SM:

Scarborough Tues

Three young women have come forward on the record and made allegations against JVDS

One an American went to the Fbi and told them Joran was very persistent trying to get her in his car after a night of drinking at C&C

Not a crime, but she came forward

According to a defense attorney two young ladies went to prosecutors told stories of a night of heavy drinking, followed by sex at his apartment. Again, not a crime, but they came forward.

It is the fourth teenager...17 yr old Aruban who is alledging a crime. She went to her attorney who met with a private investigator and Beth. They say that attorney told them about her allegations. She claims that in the spring, she was drugged and had unwanted sexual contact with Joran. She says two other of her friends had similar allegations. Prosecutors and police won't comment, in fact she hasn't gone to police yet. Attorney says she plans to go to prosecutor Prosecutors say she may be a new witness in this case

Polygraph experts that were here on the island, former FBI agents gave the landfill witness a polygraph. He not only failed it, he failed it big time!

1,269 posted on 08/23/2005 11:59:57 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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From SM:

sb wrote:

OK, rewound the tape and what Michelle said was that there were 2 girls who claimed that they were with Joran for "heavy drinking" at CC's and afterwards he took them to his apartment for sex. This may have been consensual and not necessarily a crime. But it does raise red flags about that detached apt. and whether he used it for a hideaway in his "conquests".

When I heard it the first time, the initial part of her statement went right by and I remembered just the apartment location comment. Of course that sounded like a bombshell of bombshells!

1,270 posted on 08/24/2005 12:19:17 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
TWITTY: Well, I knew that was going to be a question, and there is a specific reason why I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that these sexual assaults were committed against Natalee, but I cannot disclose it because it`s part of the investigation.

Could the specific reason be the piece of fabric from her blouse? Or worse, did the call received at the Twitty home have Natalee in it, crying that she was raped???

1,271 posted on 08/24/2005 12:43:59 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TexKat

Yes, I would think that he would indeed take her to his house, and we know that Beth "knew" Natalee had beeb there that night (again, I am thinking monkey screeches in the background of Natalee's call for help, the call that Beth heard 1000 times).


1,272 posted on 08/24/2005 12:48:02 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Has Beth played the call for Greta?


1,273 posted on 08/24/2005 1:42:12 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: looney tune

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1,274 posted on 08/24/2005 3:13:12 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Canadian Outrage
I'm thankful for our system of Justice also. The only thing I don't like about our system is that the sentencing is not as stiff as I'd like to see. also, they should have NEVER absolished the Death penalty. However, if a criminal is classed as "Habitual", they can be kept in prison forever such as Paul Bernardo.

Yes, I agree. I am heartbroken over these children like Jessica Lunsford, and Shasta and Dillon, who have been abused by repeat offenders. There is no reason for that. Those men should have at least been in jail for the rest of their lives, if not put to death.

Still, when I think about how easy it was for Aruba to throw the security guards in jail, and how close they were to prosecuting two innocent men where just one judge could have decided that they were guilty . . . and just one judge can decide that Joran isn't guilty regardless of evidence, etc . . . makes me very glad for our system . . .

1,275 posted on 08/24/2005 5:16:50 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: stlnative
maybe... just maybe this new info is finally the beginning of the end for these punks and the freak father.

I sure hope so, stlnative. I sure hope so . . .

1,276 posted on 08/24/2005 5:18:36 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

"Those men should have at least been in jail for the rest of their lives, if not put to death."

This is why prisoners have their own system. Remember what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer inside the pen. I imagine dying was the easy part.

Everyone has two sides and my overly-simplistic theory is that one's temper is the 'bad side' trying to emerge. Many criminals have raging tempers. Like Joran.

I'm not given to hasty generalizations like this. But it's early and I'm too pooped to google! ;p


1,277 posted on 08/24/2005 5:23:00 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: stlnative
Hey GOOD NEWS... We might be hooked up to city water as early as Spring of 2006. I am so excited!!!

WONDERFUL news, stlnative! I am so glad for you! I'll pray that everything goes smoothly and that you can get your city water soon! :o)

Let me know how it all turns out, ok?

1,278 posted on 08/24/2005 5:25:43 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Malichi

I'll gladly buy the first round and the last.


1,279 posted on 08/24/2005 5:26:55 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: Froufrou

I think it is called something like "Honor among thieves" or something like that? Yes, there is a whole other "justice system" behind bars. They don't take kindly to child abusers, etc.


1,280 posted on 08/24/2005 5:29:47 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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