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Marijuana initiative set for November ballot
Telluride Daily Planet (CO) ^ | August 5, 2005

Posted on 08/10/2005 12:59:24 PM PDT by Know your rights

While a marijuana ordinance has received more than enough support to place it on the November ballot, it was the initiative's opponents who were most vocal at the Telluride Town Council meeting Tuesday.

Speaking passionately about their opposition to marijuana use, about a half-dozen opponents spoke out about the negative implications of an ordinance that would relax the enforcement of marijuana laws and support a statewide system of legalization, distribution and taxation.

A number of supporters also spoke during a half-hour debate that ended without consensus.

The town council had two options: it could either endorse the ordinance and therefore put it on the books, or place the ordinance on the November ballot.

The council showed no inclination toward passing the measure themselves. Instead, they chose unanimously to let voters decide.

"Whatever council votes today, it's neither an endorsement or a denial of the initiative," said council member Andrea Benda.

"There's been a lot of back and forth on this, and that's what an election is all about" said council member Stu Fraser. "By Nov. 1, everybody will have heard every aspect of this ... And then the folks in the community will vote on it."

The debate was not broadcast on KOTO, since a power outage forced the meeting out of Rebekah Hall and into the firehouse next door. But the 30 or 40 people who attended the meeting heard several sides of the arguments for and against the proposed ordinance, America's Drug War, medical marijuana and marijuana use in general.

Opponents cited a variety of concerns.

Richard Kearney, a former member of the Positive Alternatives Team, which works to provide area youth with alternatives to drug and alcohol use, wondered whether the ordinance might lead to increased violence, because, he said, a large portion of "violent crime is substance related."

Marrene Reagan, a family therapist, said that while she supports medical marijuana to ease pain, de-criminalizing marijuana would be bad for families.

"Children are confused because many of the people that they look up to and respect are very comfortable using marijuana," Reagan said. "They question this use of a substance to fill these emotional holes we have in us. There are ways to fill these emotional holes that allow us to grow and are positive, and I don't think using substances is an answer. I just think this is a highly unusual step that I don't think addresses many of the issues and I don't think it's necessary."

The ordinance would not, in fact, legalize marijuana. It would merely make it the Town Marshals' "lowest law enforcement priority."

Some saw that as a problem in itself.

"I think it's inappropriate to create a priority" for the marshals, said Mike Dorsey, a former lawyer for the federal government. "Law enforcement is a flexible matter. The marshals work with the town attorneys to make their own priorities.

"You guys are trying to send a message to the state, if not the nation, that marijuana should be legalized," Dorsey said. "I think that's inappropriate for the families of Telluride. If we pass this ordinance we're saying that Telluride supports the decriminalization of marijuana."

But Peggy Rose, a registered medical marijuana patient from Grand Junction, said she would like to have a "sanctuary" where she can use her medicine without worrying about prosecution. She said she suffers from chronic nausea and cannot eat if she does not smoke the herb.

Ron Gilmer, a member of the Colorado Advisory Counsel on AIDS, said he supported the medical marijuana initiative as a way of relieving the pain of terminally ill patients. He said he especially supported the second part of the ordinance, which supports a method of marijuana distribution that would give patients easier access to the drug.


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1 posted on 08/10/2005 12:59:27 PM PDT by Know your rights
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To: Know your rights

Just legalize it and go on to other issues.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 1:01:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Know your rights

Dude!


3 posted on 08/10/2005 1:01:32 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Brilliant

Marijuana initiative...that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.


4 posted on 08/10/2005 1:02:47 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Know your rights

How could this possibly matter? Federal law clearly states marijuana is illegal and then there was the recent U.S. Supreme court ruling on medical marijuana. What a waste of a debate.


5 posted on 08/10/2005 1:05:55 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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Another verse will needed for "ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH"


6 posted on 08/10/2005 1:09:47 PM PDT by hondo1951 (i live in happy valley, but i'm not happy)
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To: Know your rights

Dude.

Like this is sooooo coool.

I am gonna vote for it.

When is the election again?


7 posted on 08/10/2005 1:10:13 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Lekker 1

LOL!


8 posted on 08/10/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Know your rights
wondered whether the ordinance might lead to increased violence, because, he said, a large portion of "violent crime is substance related."

Major failure to grasp the concept there. Violent crime and substances are related when the substance is illegal. This is seeking to alleviate that link.

9 posted on 08/10/2005 1:16:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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How could this possibly matter? Federal law clearly states marijuana is illegal and then there was the recent U.S. Supreme court ruling on medical marijuana.

So federalism and subsidiarity mean nothing to you? Some "conservative."

10 posted on 08/10/2005 1:17:15 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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Violent crime and substances are related when the substance is illegal.

As Prohibition clearly showed us.

11 posted on 08/10/2005 1:18:30 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

You're putting words in my mouth. I just stated that this is useless under the current system we have now, I didn't say anything in support or opposition. Be naive if you want.


12 posted on 08/10/2005 1:20:38 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: Lekker 1
Marijuana initiative...that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.

Drunks don't often show much initiative either; what's your point?

13 posted on 08/10/2005 1:20:57 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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this is useless under the current system we have now

Wrong ... fderal law says nothing about the priorities of any town marshal.

14 posted on 08/10/2005 1:22:26 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Paloma_55
Like this is sooooo coool.

Sad what passes for humor among War On Drugs fanatics.

15 posted on 08/10/2005 1:23:51 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Drunks don't often show much initiative either; what's your point?

...uh....I forgot. Where's my Cheetos?

16 posted on 08/10/2005 1:24:24 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Brilliant
Just legalize it and go on to other issues.

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

17 posted on 08/10/2005 1:25:02 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Lekker 1
...uh....I forgot. Where's my Cheetos?

Sad what passes for humor among War On Drugs fanatics.

18 posted on 08/10/2005 1:25:55 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Opponents cited a variety of concerns.

After just two puffs off a Marijuana joint you'll turn into a bat and fly around the room.

19 posted on 08/10/2005 1:30:12 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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I love how the Supreme Court was able to come up with a clear cite from the Constitution that allows the FedGov that police power.

Er... then again...

You are right about one thing. Debate is pointless. The WoDdies want their War and nothing will keep them from it. Especially not a little thing like the Constitution.

20 posted on 08/10/2005 1:32:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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