Thanks for the other link, and for being reasonable. I truly believe that we all argue from our own premises and therefore we always argue in a circle. God tells Moses: "I Am". I am what I am. What we think is what we become. I came full circle from being "damaged" by a fundamental church (the process), back to a knowledge of God that is not found in anyone's "religion". It is by revelation to those who ask.
If you've been taken aback by some of the anti-Christian hostility in this thread, you ain't seen nothin' yet! Just watch what'll happen if President Bush gets a couple of more Supreme Court appointments in addition to John Roberts. If that happens, a non-leftist court might well reject ACLU-Evolutionist hegemony over public education, turning issues involving ID over to local officials.
When that happens, there'll be weeping and gnashing of teeth unlike anything ever seen, both at DU and among the hardcore evolutionists here. The term "fundies" will be mild compared to some of the names conservative Chsristians will be called.