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To: ConsentofGoverned
we have been proving ID since the first farmers grew and selected their crops and animals..the most obvious examples of ID are the various farm crops - animals and dogs we have bred oops designed. do you understand??

That simply shows that man is selectively controlling the reproduction of living things. It does not demonstrate ID. If man can selectively breed desired traits (at leasted desired by man), why can't natural, environmental factors apply pressures that cause selective breeding on wild populations? That's an underlying concept of evolution and no need to envoke outside control. The only differnece is that the natural pressures are just that, natural, and do not have a controller behind them that desires a certain outcome.

206 posted on 08/02/2005 8:02:17 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30
" If man can selectively breed desired traits (at leasted desired by man), why can't natural, environmental factors apply pressures that cause selective breeding on wild populations? That's an underlying concept of evolution and no need to evoke outside control. The only difference is that the natural pressures are just that, natural, and do not have a controller behind them that desires a certain outcome."

Seems like we can agree there - Few here out and out state evolution does not occur - it's just- is that the MAIN cause in the diversity of life??

Many feel we are being seeded by organic matter daily via cosmic dust..sent here perhaps by design LOL

it is great to discuss with those who do not feel so threatened by concepts that are new that they attack the person not the argument. thanks..
329 posted on 08/02/2005 9:04:53 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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