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SHANGO'S RIDDLE
Shango | 8/1/05 | Shango

Posted on 08/01/2005 12:37:53 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: Froufrou

The Arawaks are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have to live there. Tourism is their biggest industry. On the other hand to bad guys are there all the time. They don't seem to be afraid of LE.

I don't if the neck-tie is related or not. Could be. Maybe a sign to LE not to get week knees. Or to the public to keep their own counsel.


41 posted on 08/01/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Froufrou
FF...this is an island that has known much poverty and great riches. At one time there were gold mines on Aruba. Now there is the drug flow (dirty hand is the dealer...and dirty feet is the transit, IMO).

I am beginning to think that shango is vy close to the truth. Jurine is a young lion...but he was pushed aside when the real lions saw his catch.

Whether he put the body away or whether he left (as he was asked to do)...the truth is in there somewhere.

42 posted on 08/01/2005 6:53:38 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

Remmber the rumors about the ATM withdrawals? the black eye? Did he try to buy or win her back?


43 posted on 08/01/2005 6:56:15 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva
You may be onto something...it goes against all we have imagined but Jurine might have tried to save her from more evil forces...at least that is what the riddles imply. And that is as possible as any other theory.

Imagine Jurine starts out as a heel...and ends up as a hero...and gets a black eye for his effort.

44 posted on 08/01/2005 7:06:35 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

Well, IF the rumors about the phone calls are true, it would make sense that she was left someplace where she did not know the people.

I think the FBI needs to find out which high profile people were on that island that night and what they were doing. 60 days after the fact may make that very hard to do. Somebody knows.


45 posted on 08/01/2005 7:22:49 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva
Pray hard, really hard...I think truth may come out.

And no, I don't understand the power of prayer and why it works...but it seems to! I have faith in the One behind it.

46 posted on 08/01/2005 7:30:05 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: justche

pinging myself to a new thread to try to keep track of


47 posted on 08/01/2005 10:27:28 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: truthluva
>If Shango has a strong religious connection is appears
>more pagan than Christian. I have viewed the posts in this >manner.

VOODOO is an African religion
SHANGO is the Caribbean equivalent of VooDoo.
48 posted on 08/02/2005 3:44:56 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: Dark Skies

http://www.cultural-expressions.com/ifa/orisha/shango.htm

Sango is the God of Thunder
Sango is King.
Just as lightning flashes to show indistinguishable landscape,
Sango has the ability to show one the truth just as quickly.


49 posted on 08/02/2005 3:50:05 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: Froufrou

There is a common element between the "Old Hotel", The Atlantis that Equusearch searched yesterday: it's Owner
and the Owner of the"old Hilton" Wyndham:*Alfonso Riverol*

Appears that Riverol might be bankrolling the Atlantis' Owner,
among other things:

Also Beth, Jug & Equusearch were all staying at the Wyndham (FWIW)

EquuSearch; Dog Teams & Searchers Go To the Atlantis
August 1st, 2005
EquuSearch was notified this morning of a potential place of interest located in the area known as ****the old Atlantis Hotel****. The Atlantis is basically an old run down hotel and abandoned for at least 15 years. Three dog teams searched the many buildings and underground pool areas of the area.
Other camera equipment was brought in as well to search the more difficult to get to places.After about two hours of dealing with the dangerous environment, wasps and bats the searchonly found a plastic bag with a dead animal in it.



Diario Diamars, 12 Juli, 2005
(Jossy Mansuers Newspaper)
FRODIGAL SON. Sergio Duarte is back on the island. Fifteen years ago when ****Atlantis Hotel*** was conceived and built by the Duarte family Sergio lived here and had a good time, chasing chicks, waterskiing, night-clubbing. Later the project got into trouble, fell into a state of despair, and was quagmired in the courts. Over the years a number of personal and business losses – Sergio’s beautiful sister lost her life in a tragic car accident at the then dangerous airport junction – humbled and quieted the man. He is today happily married raising two beautiful boys and hoping to return to Aruba and revive Atlantis. The trouble, he says is over, the government has been paid and most issues settled. I bumped into Sergio at Lounge Rouge, Texas de Brazil, accompanying business man ****Alfonso Riverol**** and a pair of glamorous women. Some things don’t change . . .


COMPANY: ARUBA HOTEL ENTERPRISES N.V. ****WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT
CONTACT:
Alfonso Riverol

TITLE: President
PHONE: 297-586-4466 ext:3800
FAX: +297-586-4987
EMAIL: alrivest@aol.com
WEBSITE:
ADDRESS: J.E. Irausquin Blvd. #77 Palm Beach ARUBA


50 posted on 08/02/2005 4:00:44 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: Froufrou

>>I still believe for no particular reason there may be a >>connection between the Wyndham and the
>> Allegro. Mayge the dealers at Wyndham arranged the >>guestlist for the raves at Allegro? They have
>> the same dealers? Something...

There is a common element between the "Old Hotel", The Atlantis that Equusearch searched yesterday: it's Owner
and the Owner of the"old Hilton" Wyndham:*Alfonso Riverol*

Appears that Riverol might be bankrolling the Atlantis' Owner,
among other things:

Also Beth, Jug & Equusearch were all staying at the Wyndham (FWIW)

EquuSearch; Dog Teams & Searchers Go To the Atlantis
August 1st, 2005
EquuSearch was notified this morning of a potential place of interest located in the area known as ****the old Atlantis Hotel****. The Atlantis is basically an old run down hotel and abandoned for at least 15 years. Three dog teams searched the many buildings and underground pool areas of the area.
Other camera equipment was brought in as well to search the more difficult to get to places.After about two hours of dealing with the dangerous environment, wasps and bats the searchonly found a plastic bag with a dead animal in it.



Diario Diamars, 12 Juli, 2005
(Jossy Mansuers Newspaper)
FRODIGAL SON. Sergio Duarte is back on the island. Fifteen years ago when ****Atlantis Hotel*** was conceived and built by the Duarte family Sergio lived here and had a good time, chasing chicks, waterskiing, night-clubbing. Later the project got into trouble, fell into a state of despair, and was quagmired in the courts. Over the years a number of personal and business losses – Sergio’s beautiful sister lost her life in a tragic car accident at the then dangerous airport junction – humbled and quieted the man. He is today happily married raising two beautiful boys and hoping to return to Aruba and revive Atlantis. The trouble, he says is over, the government has been paid and most issues settled. I bumped into Sergio at Lounge Rouge, Texas de Brazil, accompanying business man ****Alfonso Riverol**** and a pair of glamorous women. Some things don’t change . . .


COMPANY: ARUBA HOTEL ENTERPRISES N.V. ****WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT
CONTACT:
Alfonso Riverol

TITLE: President
PHONE: 297-586-4466 ext:3800
FAX: +297-586-4987
EMAIL: alrivest@aol.com
WEBSITE:
ADDRESS: J.E. Irausquin Blvd. #77 Palm Beach ARUBA


51 posted on 08/02/2005 4:04:32 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: bolta_lightnin

'scuz double post
the coffee is calling
must appease the caffine gods...


52 posted on 08/02/2005 4:25:32 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: Froufrou

so anyway, Frou, that was a good find to notice
"David" being the only one to leave the den alive.
If we could find out what hotel Dave Holloway was
staying at, at the time of that writing, S may be
implicating that Hotel's ownership and others
connected with it as having connections to this crime (or to organized crime in general).

Was Dave at the Wyndham as well??

I hope those donated Wyndham rooms were checked for bugs (not just bedbugs)


53 posted on 08/02/2005 4:35:23 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: bolta_lightnin
The Truth Can Hurt! Like Fire!

I wonder if that is what he/she means by "light the fire."

54 posted on 08/02/2005 5:21:07 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: bolta_lightnin

"that was a good find to notice
"David" being the only one to leave the den alive."

I believe truthluva gets the credit for that. Dave's been pretty quiet through all this. Maybe he's got something up his sleeve as well as Beth has. What does he do, anyone know? Thought I heard he's in construction...not sure about that.

~ugh! back from the gym, got to shower now! ugh!~


55 posted on 08/02/2005 5:39:56 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Dark Skies

'I wonder if that is what he/she means by "light the fire."'

'Let the truth be heard?'


56 posted on 08/02/2005 5:41:11 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Dark Skies; truthluva

DS - I agree DirtyHand, the dealer (drugs, raves, cards) and DirtyFoot, the transit (Steve Croes.) Truth may be stranger than fiction, but it's usually a darn lot simpler!


57 posted on 08/02/2005 5:44:51 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Froufrou
Mornin' FF.

I think it may be even larger than that. Dirty Hand is the front office, i.e. the money man, the top banker for the drug trade...remember Aruba is a transit point. Drugs come through Aruba and get rerouted to the Netherlands or to the U.S. (or wherever) because the cash paid for the drugs must get laundered (turned into bank funds) at each point that it changes hands. Before the casinos, I think the cigarette business was the primary means of turning the drug cash into money in bank accounts. Anyway, I think Dirty Hand is the guy that runs the money side of the business.

That means the Dirty Feet is the guy that handles the movement of the drugs onto the island and reroutes them to their next destination. He is the traffic controller and the warehouseman.

My guess is that the reference to Dirty Hands and Dirty Feet is to the entire organizations of laundering and transit.

58 posted on 08/02/2005 6:10:40 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: truthluva

fascinating stuff


59 posted on 08/02/2005 6:10:49 AM PDT by fnord (497 1/2 feet of rope ... I just carry it)
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To: bolta_lightnin

You do realize that address is the same address as the Allegro?? Right??


60 posted on 08/02/2005 6:35:17 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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