Well I'm back for a short few minutes before I have to start dinner. You see, it isn't that I "post and run." More accurately it's that I post and then I have to leave. Some of us here do have a life.
And tell me please what you've posted to me, that I haven't responded to.
Uh don't forget deep in the Hurtgen Forest...
So you want to do a little FReeper reminiscing too. No, I haven't forgotten ditHF, but those threads weren't something I ever got involved in. Are you one of the ones who got taken in by that?
contrary to your opinion I believe at least one of them knows her ultimate fate and possibly murdered her.
Hmm, I don't remember ever saying it was impossible that one of the boys had murdered her. Actually, I've said I think that IS a possibility, although the time line for that theory seems problematic. (And Mark Fuhrman has also expressed that opinion. Is he a "liberal" who needs to "grow up" too?)
What I do remember is stating that it's possible none of those three boys know of Natalee's ultimate fate.
Wouldn't you agree that it can be a bad idea to get too wedded to one basic theory, to the exclusion of others? (I guess not -- some here seem to have formed their pet theories, and like a dog with a bone, they won't let go. And oooooh, they growl at anyone who has a different idea! And call them ...TROLLS! Or, "thread hijackers." Gosh, I thought this forum was owned by Jim Robinson, not by the self-appointed thread police.)
The fact that investigators seemed to be getting nothing helpful out of these boys could, just maybe, lead a rational person to think there might be good reason to more aggressively pursue other leads. (Btw, I believe Greta expressed a similar opinion. Does Greta need to "grow up," too?)
sounds like you and Rippersnapper are old friends!
Reading back some posts, I saw that Rippersnapper says he's been a lurker for a long time. I don't know how I could have known him as a lurker. I mean, by definition, lurkers don't post. Maybe you can 'splain that to me, too. (And nooooooooooo, contrary to some of the hilarious speculation I've seen here, we're not the same person. Perhaps in the fevered minds of the paranoid, their imagined antagonists blend into one monster.)
Your unrealistic IMO liberal thoughts you have expressed on the Natalee case...
Now what would be "liberal thoughts" regarding the Natalee case? Please do explain, I'm very curious about that.
But if I don't reply to you soon, don't think I'm "running." It's just that I'm going to...make dinner. (And then enjoy it with my family, and sit down and watch Greta etc. with my family, go to bed right after that because I have to get up early to take son to band camp. You know, have a life.)
As you say, it's not a good idea to be wedded to one basic theory, to the exclusion of others. We all have a life.
No comment...
And tell me please what you've posted to me, that I haven't responded to.
UM try looking at the top of the page where it says ping, click on that and it will show all the responses to your posts, it will also show you what you have posted before in case your memory fails you as it did in the bold..try my post 143 on this thread:
you-To focus so obsessively on the Kalpoes and the van der Sloots, and with such vituperation, is, I think, extremely counterproductive. I am the first to say I may be wrong, but based on what I've heard and read, I do not think they murdered Natalee, nor know of her ultimate fate.
me-Well why did they finger the security guards and do nothing to help them get out of jail when they were arrested, until they (3 musketeers)were proven to be liars? Obviously they lied about events that night and tried to place blame elsewhere. They obstructed the investigation and gained time to get their stories together and destroy evidence. They are guilty of ethical and moral wrongs if not crimes. By their lies they brought the microscope to focus on them and their actions. Blame them not the media. They knew something and tried to hide it. They are not innocent
The bold contradicts your other posts
....Uh don't forget deep in the Hurtgen Forest...
Are you one of the ones who got taken in by that?
Not hardly...not taken in by you either..LOL..
.....contrary to your opinion I believe at least one of them knows her ultimate fate and possibly murdered her.
Hmm, I don't remember ever saying it was impossible that one of the boys had murdered her. Actually, I've said I think that IS a possibility, although the time line for that theory seems problematic. (And Mark Fuhrman has also expressed that opinion. Is he a "liberal" who needs to "grow up" too?)
Mark Fuhrman is a professional Investigator who has experience in capital cases.he pointed out the problems with the three guys self serving statements and what they mean to an experienced investigator..the time line is not problematic, especially if someone helped out such as the Kalpoes or daddy...Fuhrhman is not a bleeding heart liberal who blamed Nicole for her own demise.or thought OJ couldn't have done it because he is such a nice guy...in case you forgot. People who are naive and think like children that everyone is good, need to grow up. People who have seen dead bodies and don't believe in fairy tales have already grown up.
What I do remember is stating that it's possible none of those three boys know of Natalee's ultimate fate.
Possible is not the same as I think...
Wouldn't you agree that it can be a bad idea to get too wedded to one basic theory, to the exclusion of others? (I guess not -- some here seem to have formed their pet theories, and like a dog with a bone, they won't let go. And oooooh, they growl at anyone who has a different idea! And call them ...TROLLS! Or, "thread hijackers." Gosh, I thought this forum was owned by Jim Robinson, not by the self-appointed thread police.)
I welcome contrary views, but they should be ideally be supported by facts. I questioned your opinions and gave specific information that I believed shot your "feelings" down.Tell me since you don't think the three boys had anything to do with her disappearance or even know what happened to her, what is your theory and what do you base it on? Why did they all lie? What leads you to believe they didn't kill her or know what happened to her? Back up your opinion with details not "I think" if you want to be taken seriously....
The fact that investigators seemed to be getting nothing helpful out of these boys could, just maybe, lead a rational person to think there might be good reason to more aggressively pursue other leads. (Btw, I believe Greta expressed a similar opinion. Does Greta need to "grow up," too?)
The investigators bungled the case in the beginning, jailing the wrong people and failing to secure evidence. Of course one should pursue all leads, but not at the expense of letting the primary suspects get off via lying. your comments about Greta don't deserve an answer..she is a sensationalistic reporter, and she is not prosecuting the case.
.....sounds like you and Rippersnapper are old friends!
Reading back some posts, I saw that Rippersnapper says he's been a lurker for a long time. I don't know how I could have known him as a lurker. I mean, by definition, lurkers don't post. Maybe you can 'splain that to me, too. (And nooooooooooo, contrary to some of the hilarious speculation I've seen here, we're not the same person. Perhaps in the fevered minds of the paranoid, their imagined antagonists blend into one monster.)
Don't flatter yourself, I could care less about how many personalities you have unless one happens to come up with some logical thought process and evidence to back it up. What was your prior screen name?
....Your unrealistic IMO liberal thoughts you have expressed on the Natalee case...
Now what would be "liberal thoughts" regarding the Natalee case? Please do explain, I'm very curious about that.
LOL.."I think", your ridiculous idea that the parents should not antagonize the Kalpoes as they might be forthcoming with information. Obviously you have never been around dirtbag criminals except possibly as a social worker trying to feel their pain...such nice boys(liars and obstructing justice better describes them)...just go back and read your posts I don't want to be accused of "going after you"
But if I don't reply to you soon, don't think I'm "running." It's just that I'm going to...make dinner. (And then enjoy it with my family, and sit down and watch Greta etc. with my family, go to bed right after that because I have to get up early to take son to band camp. You know, have a life.)
I hope you have a nice life, but I suggest you keep your day job and forget about being an investigator...they work with facts...
For the most part, I have stridently disagreed with your thoughts and remarks on this forum. However, I do want to say several things here. I agree with the above remarks. I think Joran does have something to do with the K/M of Natalee, but I'm open to other scenerios. I also think it's more likely that his father was involved. But I could be wrong.
You've come under a lot of criticism on this forum and I've probably done my share; I honestly don't remember. But I think you've done an admirable job of responding in a very careful and reasoned way to fiery posts directed at you. And for that you have my respect.