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To: onyx; Nita Nupress; GarySpFc; hummingbird; DeeJay; TexKat
...those people stick together for no good reason. Lying is a large part of their innerds.

What I think we're seeing in Aruba's reaction to Beth is what Erich Fromm called "nationalism as collective or group narcissism" (paraphrasing).

The people of Aruba are saying in essence, the people of Aruba are important but non-Arubans have less or no value. You can see the same thing in Muslim extremism--cutting across national lines but having the common thread of fundamental Islam. "We are important, but you are pigs and monkeys."

The narcissism thing is particularly easy to spot in Arubans (and, again, in Muslim extremists). The narcissist, being totally concerned with only "self," reacts to painful events in life by saying:

MY pain.

MY discomfort

MY sadness or fear.

And we hear that now in Aruba..."me, me, me." Nothing about poor Nat and her family. Just "me."

In the case of Aruba, I think it results from the business (tourism) they are in and Aruba's being an insular little island. They see outsiders as having much less value than locals.

I think the reason Islam is narcissistic is that examination of self leads to an examination of one's beliefs...and that is blasphemy. Similarly, Arubans are probably disinclined to examine themselves for fear of learning the truth about Aruba (the money laundering, the attitudes of bias toward outsider, the prevelence of drugs). I was at first surprised by the attitudes of Jurine's mother and the mother of the Kalpoes..."my boy(s) is/are good boy(s), he/they couldn't have done anything wrong." Strong denial. Almost blind and childlike defense of self.

Same for Arubans collective attitude toward their legal system.

All vy strange.

1,100 posted on 07/06/2005 10:22:12 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies
I think this is an organized effort by lefties to not only protect their own, but to cause a break of sorts with our govt.

Venezuelas chavez has expressed displeasure at a base being put there, with our planes being miles from his place. Chavez is buddy buddy with their govt. When one looks at what is happening in aruba as a left vs. right, thing, it becomes obvious what is going on, and why our govt. isn't applying actual pressure. We need the base. The poor Twittys are caught in a mess.

1,105 posted on 07/06/2005 10:30:17 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Dark Skies

It's a natural reaction (nationalism) especially on a small island that depends on the tourist trade. That said, the reaction to the Twitty's has been building. Honest Arubans understand her pain and if they knew anything, they would have already come forward.

I am GRATEFUL the two black security guards have been proved innocent, and I knew they were innocent all along. Now Aruba cannot make this into a racial thang, just a anti-American thang, and we're used to that.




1,112 posted on 07/06/2005 10:35:50 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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