[rwfromkansas]

yeah, it is great when the Church of Christ does all it can to keep the lost in the dark about the Gospel by only telling it in Latin.

[murphE]

it is great when the Church of Christ does all it can to keep the lost in the dark about the Gospel by only telling it in Latin.

[roll eyes]

C'mon didn't I just say that I had respect for Calvinists on another thread? Don't make me eat my words by blatantly spreading falsehoods.

[Pio]

You're unfamiliar with the Mass. The readings are read in the vernacular in the Tidentine Mass. What we're jumping for joy about is the prayers. Also, the homiles are also said in the vernacular...so even a Tridentine Mass in Boston could, say, have the readings and homily in Spanish or English or French for that matter.

Similarly, the Novus Ordo would just do some of the prayers in Latin and the Our Father could be chanted in unison in Latin...it's very beautiful especially when you know there are Spanish speakers in the congregation.

The responses (short phrases spoken aloud) could be in Latin and easily learned by anyone with an IQ over 25.

Watch EWTN for LAtin in action at a Catholic (Novus Ordo) Mass.

[Claud]

yeah, it is great when the Church of Christ does all it can to keep the lost in the dark about the Gospel by only telling it in Latin.

My wife is a convert with no training in Latin whatever. When we go to Latin Mass, we take Missals and she reads along in English while the priest reads the Latin. By this point, she knows exactly where the priest is in the passage, and she can usually piece together the sense of it even without a translation. We give all the responses we are supposed to give, and we know what every single one of them mean.

I might also point out that in Latin Masses, the priest reads the Gospel and Epistle a second time during the homily--and this time in English. The only people who are "in the dark" about the Gospel are the ones who aren't paying attention.

Having a non-vernacular liturgical language is not as obscurantist as some would have you believe. It is as old as the Greek and Aramaic speaking Jews using Hebrew.

[BlackElk]

rw: Since you are not a Catholic, those of us who are will be sure to solicit your incredibly deep and wrong "Scriptural inshights" if and when we feel the need. Don't hold your breath and, ummmmm, mind your own beeswax.

[The Iguana]

yeah, it is great when the Church of Christ does all it can to keep the lost in the dark about the Gospel by only telling it in Latin.

In both the old (Tridentine) mass and the new (novus Ordo) mass, the scripture readings are always in the vernacular.

Even when the Novus Ordo is elebrated in latin - which hardly every happens - only the fixed parts are in Latin. Never the scripture readings.