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To: bornacatholic
Everyone's an expert these days. "Experts" said Cardinal Martini would be Pope, too.

I'll be watching for a news report of events that have actually happened. Speculation and predictions have a value of precisely nada.

42 posted on 06/20/2005 4:10:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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To: Tax-chick

Instead of me posting scores of quotes recogning Mr. Magister's expertise, why don't you post one source criticizing him as unreliable or untrustworthy.


43 posted on 06/20/2005 4:44:51 AM PDT by bornacatholic (I am blessed to have lived under great modern Popes. Thanks be to God.)
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To: Tax-chick

Good thinking, tax-chick!

People have to READ the Magister article carefully.

People then have to realize that their latest hated scape-goat Marini is the one who planned and prepared the Gregorian-chant / polyphony -filled liturgies surrounding the death of Pope John Paul II and the beginning of the Conclave, having presented those rites to the late Pontiff in 1998 (i.e., they were not "ordered" by Cardinal Ratzinger's office).

He also did the research that was preliminary to the publication of Order for the Beginning of the Petrine Ministry of the Bishop of Rome, which rites we saw carried out majestically and magnificently on global television on the day of our new Holy Father's installation. That Order was the FIRST LITURGICAL BOOK APPROVED BY POPE BENEDICT XVI - and it was all prepared by Marini and presented to Pope Benedict the day after his election.

These books are available for purchase (now) by the general public at www.paxbook.com

They are researched in a scholarly and Traditional way and beautifully printed and bound as befits the liturgical books of the Roman Rite . . . and all directed by that radical lib Marini!

But don't expect anyone on here from the SSPX side (and sympathizers) to even READ such argumentation . . . let alone attempt to reason the thing through.

It's enough for them to have a scapegoat.

And you know the old story, to paraphrase:

"For those who are loyal Roman Catholics, no changes are necessary; for those who are not, no changes will ever be enough."


88 posted on 06/20/2005 8:53:57 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: Tax-chick

Magister was the one who "found" the REAL letter to McCarrick, exposing him as a liar.

There were only two possibilities: either McCarrick gave it to her...or the Holy Office.

You draw your own conclusions.


236 posted on 06/21/2005 10:03:32 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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