[txrangerette]

Dirtboy calls Bush and jveritas "fools".

And misconstrues what many Bush bashers misconstrued from his remark that "we don't need Vigilantism on the Borders", when asked about the Minuteman project. This morning on Fox, the leading Minuteman guy said Bush was given a false rap about the word "Vigilantism", because the Minutemen themselves agree with Bush that we don't need Vigilantism, and the Minutemen are not acting as Vigilantes.

Which I feel certain Bush did not have enough information on when he spoke out. Neither did I, until I learned how the Minutemen were operating. The guy went on to complain about our border policies under President Bush, but he was nice and respectful in so doing, and he laid most of the blame on Congress.

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT JVERTAS MEANS...THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REASONABLE DISCUSSION OF ISSUES VS. VITRIOLIC HATRED OF AND ATTACKS ON PRESIDENT BUSH TAKING OVER THE SITE.

[dirtboy]

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT JVERTAS MEANS...THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REASONABLE DISCUSSION OF ISSUES VS. VITRIOLIC HATRED OF AND ATTACKS ON PRESIDENT BUSH TAKING OVER THE SITE.

I supported Bush in both elections. And I'm sorry, but he attacked the Minutemen without apparently understanding their approach and their agenda, and he has, over his term, refused to take border security seriously. He is alienating a large chunk of his base, and also giving our enemies the means to enter this country and attack us. I think "foolish" is a very appropriate term for that negligence, both politically and governmentally. If you find that too harsh, tough. Because that's the way I feel - and there are many, many others who feel the same way - just research the conference that the Heritage Foundation is having this week over the unwillingness to secure the borders to see how pervasive this sentiment is.

[dirtboy]

This morning on Fox, the leading Minuteman guy said Bush was given a false rap about the word "Vigilantism", because the Minutemen themselves agree with Bush that we don't need Vigilantism, and the Minutemen are not acting as Vigilantes.

The Minuteman spokesman can afford to be magnaminous - because they kicked some serious PR arse and scored a major blow against those who shrug their shoulders over our border problems. But Bush very clearly was speaking about the Minutemen when he uttered the charge about vigilantism - and he was wrong.

[jveritas]

Thank you txrangerette, unfortunately vitriol and hatred toward President Bush and the GOP are called now constructive criticism.

[Quix]

IN certain sections, it's viscious attacks tacitly encouraged and left alone--on those who don't agree identically with the tersely duplicitous leader and harshly assaultive crew.

The Inquisition had little on these characters.

[Serenissima Venezia]

Which I feel certain Bush did not have enough information on when he spoke out.

Then he should be man enough to apologize. Or at least to retract his use of the word 'vigilante'.