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To: MacDorcha
'love thy neighbor as thyself'(Lk.10:27) He didn't actually quote that for 1. (at least, not here)

The man comes to the Lord and asks what he must do to inherit eternal life.

The man then cites the two great laws, love God and his neighbor.

Christ agrees with the man.

Then the man asks 'who is my neighbor.

The story of the good samaritan is to show that all men are our neighbors and thus, we should love them as we love ourselves.

For 2: Jesus explains that "your neighbor" is simply one who is down on his luck. Any man that needs help.

No, the Lord is explaining that in reference to loving our neighbor as ourselves, thus the neighbor is all men wheather they are in need or not.

But, even if that were the case, who was more needful then a helpless black being ripped from his home to be sold into bondage?

Thus, we are to love all men as we love ourselves.

One can love a servant. And in Timothy 6:1, slaves are called to revere their masters. Yes, based on the situation they find themselves in, they should do so.

Slavery was a fact of life in the Roman empire.

And you quoted a passage rather well, while avoiding the larger part of the same chapter. Romans 13 deals largely with submission to authority.

And what does that have to do with the morality of slavery?

The Christian slave is serving not the master, but the Lord, Ye are brought with a price, be not ye the servants of the men (1Cor.7:23)

And as for "thou shalt not steal" I could have sworn there was also a set of rules set aside in Exodus 22 that states that "if a man steals, and is unable to pay the owner back, he is to BE SOLD to pay for the debt."

Again, what has that have to do with slavery, which is taking from a man the fruits of his labor.

What you are talking about is indentured service, to pay off a debt.

What debts had the black man incurred to the white's?

That's right: slavery is used to make up for theft.

What theft was the black man guilty of?

The only one guilty of theft were the white masters who made money of the sweat of the slaves (as did those who sold the slaves).

284 posted on 04/27/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: fortheDeclaration

"Christ agrees with the man."

This is understood, no need to underline/boldface. There was a reason I stated "He didn't actually quote that" (at least not in Luke 10:27)

He DID do such in Matthew and Mark. John as well I believe.

"But, even if that were the case, who was more needful then a helpless black being ripped from his home to be sold into bondage? "

"ripped from his home"?

you obviously have NO CLUE where the slaves came from. They were sold to white men by victorious black tribes! Slavery was their new way of life!

And aside from that, I promise those slaves were fed regularly (unless in punishment I suppose) "Need" of anything but Freedom (Not guarateed in the Bible) is laughable.

"Slavery was a fact of life in the Roman empire. "

Very good. Now, was slavery a fact of life in America at one point?

"And what does that have to do with the morality of slavery? "

Nothing. It merely points out that the Bible does NOT condemn slavery. Man does.

"Again, what has that have to do with slavery, which is taking from a man the fruits of his labor. "

I was addressing your assertion that "Thou shalt not steal" meant slavery was wrong.

If it was wrong, Biblically speaking, why is it seen as a proper means to an end?


"The only one guilty of theft were the white masters who made money of the sweat of the slaves (as did those who sold the slaves)."

Lol, now it's funny.

White masters MUST have been the only ones selling them. They MUST have been bought from other whites in Africa.

Blacks made a profit too.

and what about slave masters? They were slaves given charge over other slaves. They earned favor and rank.

Money is not guaranteed in the Bible. Only provision for Life Eternal.


294 posted on 04/27/2005 1:18:31 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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