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To: fortheDeclaration

You know Forthe:

I have been trying to be a Christian in our discourse, even though we disagree. It is not right to throw in the little digs like: "Next you will be talking about the curse of Ham." I do NOT believe slavery was right. All I have ever said is that the Bible doesn't specifically condemn it. And you STILL haven't shown me a scripture that specifically does. I have quite a bit of theology training myself. My knowledge of scripture is good as well. What you need to realize is that most Southerners, then as well as today are devout Christians. I believe that if they had been convinced that Scripture was against slavery, they would have abolished it. To imply that I would use that ridiculous theory of "Ham" is not only an insult to my intelligence, but quite rude. I don't think I deserve that from you. Are you aware that there were more people that were saved during the Late War, then any other time? Camp revivals were HUGE, especially in the Confederate Army. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Jeff Davis were all devoted Christians. Please remain civil in your discourse with me, and be careful of what you imply.


267 posted on 04/27/2005 12:08:59 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
I have been trying to be a Christian in our discourse, even though we disagree. It is not right to throw in the little digs like: "Next you will be talking about the curse of Ham." I do NOT believe slavery was right. All I have ever said is that the Bible doesn't specifically condemn it. And you STILL haven't shown me a scripture that specifically does. I have quite a bit of theology training myself. My knowledge of scripture is good as well. What you need to realize is that most Southerners, then as well as today are devout Christians. I believe that if they had been convinced that Scripture was against slavery, they would have abolished it. To imply that I would use that ridiculous theory of "Ham" is not only an insult to my intelligence, but quite rude. I don't think I deserve that from you. Are you aware that there were more people that were saved during the Late War, then any other time? Camp revivals were HUGE, especially in the Confederate Army. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Jeff Davis were all devoted Christians. Please remain civil in your discourse with me, and be careful of what you imply.

Well, my friend, the curse of Ham is exactly what the Southern Christians appealed to, and even today still do.

You will find that in some reference Bibles (Drakes)

So, I was not intending to insult you with the reference, but that is the gist of the Southern argument.

Both Lee and Jackson were against slavery so they did not attempt to justify it.

Now, the moral issue of slavery is very clear, someone is getting economic benefit from someone else's labor.

I call that theft, what do you call it?

Christianity gradually moved to end it on the principle that all men are created equal before God.

The Southern theologians turned this upside down and stated that one race had been intended by God to be enslaved due to the curse of Ham.

The churches actually split over slavery.

290 posted on 04/27/2005 1:13:21 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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