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To: 4ConservativeJustices; Non-Sequitur
"Reagan was the best."

Agreed. I would say he was the greatest President of the 20th century and one of the three greatest this country has ever been bless to have - along with Lincoln and Washington.

"State sovereignty is an integral part of the checks and balances designed to restrain one group from destroying the freedom of another." - Reagan

No problem there, so long as "state sovereignty" is understood in the manner that the Founders & Framers, and Reagan understood it - as compared to your Calhounian apostacy. "States' rights" to Reagan is in no way similar to "States' rights" in the slave days, or in the Jim Crow days.

"All of us -- all of us need to be reminded that the Federal Government did not create the states; the states created the Federal Government."

Reagan got that partly right, but it needs to be understood in context. First, you seem to conflate the Union of the States with the form of government. And if you agree that the federal government was designed by the delegates of the people, in convention, and ratified by the people in their respective states, in convention, then at least the last clause of Reagan's quote is reasonable.

If you really want to make news, find me the quotation from Reagan where he laments the outcome of the Civil War and wishes for a return to the slave days of the antebellum south. The President was never one of you.

320 posted on 04/19/2005 9:05:02 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
Agreed. I would say he was the greatest President of the 20th century and one of the three greatest this country has ever been bless to have - along with Lincoln and Washington.

I'd opt for Jefferson and Washington.

"States' rights" to Reagan is in no way similar to "States' rights" in the slave days, or in the Jim Crow days.

Your problem is that you insist on differentiating between Northern "states rights" and Southern. States rights refer to retained sovereign powers, and the limited scope of the federal government. That's exactly what Reagan referred to in his speeches. It the same as that espoused by Jefferson and Calhoun, John Taylor et al.

Reagan got that partly right, but it needs to be understood in context.

Huh? You STILL think the federal government created the states? Reagan got it exactly right.

First, you seem to conflate the Union of the States with the form of government.

The individual, several, separate, sovereign states agreed to UNITE with others for a specific purpose - that is what a UNION is. A UNION is not ONE. The form of government chosen is NOT a union - it's a form of government. The Constitution is the compact which specifies the terms of their agreemnet to UNITE and delineates the form of govenmnent, and the objects that the DELEGATED powers will encompass.

If you really want to make news, find me the quotation from Reagan where he laments the outcome of the Civil War and wishes for a return to the slave days of the antebellum south.

None of us here are advocating such - that's your problem, you can't separate a desire for limited government from slavery. The union you so dearly love practiced LEGALIZED slavery.

The President was never one of you.

'Jefferson Davis is a hero of mine.' - Ronald W. Reagan, 21 Sep 1980.

389 posted on 04/21/2005 7:43:52 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. || Quoting Lincoln OR JimRob is a bannable offense.)
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