Posted on 04/14/2005 6:40:53 PM PDT by kellynla
This is fairly mild compared to some of the other forums out there.
How nice of you. In return, let me offer this vocabulary that you can use on your next visit to my home town of Chicago. When are you guys planning on visiting? Maybe I can arrange to be there and give you a tour?
1. Grachki (grach'-key): Chicagoese for "garage key" as in, "Yo, Theresa, waja do wit da grachki? How my supposta cut da grass if I don't git intada grach?"
2. Uptadaendada (up-ta-da-en'-dada): As in, "Joey, you kin ride yur bike uptadaendada alley but not acrost or I'll bust yur butt."
3. Sammich: Chicagoese for sandwich. When made with sausage, it's a sassage sammich; when made with shredded beef, it's an Italian Beef sammich, a local delicacy consisting of piles of spicy meat in a perilously soggy bun.
4. Da: This article is a key part of Chicago speech, as in "Da Bears" or "Da Mare" -- the latter denoting Richard M. Daley, or Richie, as he's often called.
5. Jewels: Not family heirlooms, but a popular name for one of the region's dominant grocery store chains. "I'm goin' to da Jewels to pick up some sassage."
6. Field's: Marshall Field, a prominent Chicago department store. Also Carson Pirie Scott, another major department store chain, is simply called "Carson's."
7. Tree: The number between two and four. "We were lucky dat we only got tree inches of snow da udder night."
8. Prairie: A vacant lot, especially one on which weeds are growing.
9. Over by dere: Translates to "over by there," a way of emphasizing a site presumed familiar to the listener. As in, "I got the sassage at da Jewels down on Kedzie, over by dere."
10. KaminskiPark: The mispronounced name of the ballpark where the Chicago White Sox (da Sox) play baseball. Comiskey Park was recently renamed U.S. Cellular Field (yuck!).
11. Frunchroom: As in, "Getottada frunchroom wit dose muddy shoes." It's not the "parlor." It's not the "living room." In the land of the bungalow, it's the "frunchroom," a named derived, linguists believe, from "front room."
12. Use: Not the verb, but the plural onoun "you." "Where use goin'?"
13. Downtown: Anywhere near The Lake, south of The Zoo (Lincoln Park Zoo) and north of Soldier Field.
14. The Lake: Lake Michigan. (What other lake is there?) It's often used by local weathermen, "cooler by The Lake."
15. BoysTown: A section on Halsted between Belmont and Addison which is lined with gay bars both sides of the street. "Didn't I see use in BoysTown in front of da Manhole?"
16. Braht: Short for Bratwurst. "Gimme a braht wit kraut."
17. Cashbox: Traffic reporter slang for tollbooths. "Dere's a delay at da cashbox on da Skyway."
18. Goes: Past or present tense of the verb "say." For example, "Then he goes, 'I like this place'!"
19. Guys: Used when addressing two or more people, regardless of each individual's gender.
20. Pop: A soft drink. Don't say "soda" in this own. "Do ya wanna canna pop?"
21. Sliders: Nickname for hamburgers from White Castle, a popular Midwestern burger chain. "Dose sliders I had last night gave me da runs."
22. The Taste: The Taste of Chicago Festival, a huge extravaganza in Grant Park featuring samples of Chicagoland cuisine which takes place each year around the Fourth of July holiday.
23. "Jieetyet?": Translates to, "Did you eat yet?"
24. Winter and Construction: Punch line to the joke, "What are the two seasons in Chicago?"
25. Cuppa Too-Tree: is Chicagoese for "a couple, two, or three" which really means "a few." For example, "Hey Mike, dere any beerz left in da cooler over by dere?" "Yeh, a cuppa too-tree."
26. 588-2300: Everyone in Chicago knows this commercial jingle and the carpet company you'll get if you call that number -- Empire!
27. Junk Djor: You will usually find the 'junk drawer' in the kitchen filled to the brim with miscellaneous, but very important, junk.
28. Southern Illinois: Anything south of I-80.
29. Expressways: The Interstates in the immediate Chicagoland area are usually known just by their 'name' and not their Interstate number: The Dan Ryan ("the Ryan"), the Stevenson, the Kennedy, the Eisenhower (the "Ike"), and the Edens.
30. Gym Shoes: The rest of the country may refer to them as sneakers or running shoes but Chicagoans will always call them gym shoes!
31. Nort: a direction. The opposite of Sout. Remember, da Cubs are da Nort Side baseball team, and da Sox are da Sout Side baseball team.
Were they sovereign, in the accepted sense of the term? A sovereign state exercises complete control over its territory and its actions. Did states? Could they carry on relations with other sovereign nations and states? No. Could they acquire territory or expand their influence? No. Could they raise armies, coin money, set their trade policies? No, no, and no. Could they decide their own form of government? Hell, no. The Constitution allows the states to run things within their own borders, within the restrictions and controls placed on them. They could no more unilaterally leave the Union than they could unilaterally join.
Non Sequitur
"[In America] it is impossible to speak of original sovereignty in regard to the majority of the states. Many of them were not included in the federal complex until long after it had been established. The states that make up the American Union are mostly in the nature of territories, more or less, formed for technical administrative purposes, their boundaries having in many cases been fixed in the mapping office. Originally these states did not and could not possess sovereign rights of their own. Because it was the Union that created most of the so-called states."
Adolph Hitler.
Yall have your those that MIRROR your views, we have ours:
'All of us -- all of us need to be reminded that the Federal Government did not create the states; the states created the Federal Government.'
President Ronald W. Reagan
'State sovereignty is an integral part of the checks and balances designed to restrain one group from destroying the freedom of another.'
President Ronald W. Reagan
Reagan was the best.
Source?
So when you going to come up for a visit to the Land of Lincoln? We can go out to Dixon and visit the Reagan birthplace, driving on the Ronald Reagan Tollway, and visit his home, tour Eureka, maybe take in a Cubs game just like Reagan used to broadcast. You are going to come north for a vacation, aren't you?
Mein Kampf volume II, 1926.
I would absolutely love to. I've been to Minnesota, New York, Massachussets, and Ohio.
Page 312.
The root of it all is the fact that they know it makes Saint Abe look bad. So they'll try to make the unpleasant quote go away, either by assaulting its authenticity (which they already know as they have been shown it many times) or maliciously smearing the attacker to get it pulled.
The ultimate sovereignty is the right of the people to withdraw their legislators and secede from the government that they themselves created.
Not unilaterally, no. That was illegal.
Do you remember a smorgasbord restaurant in Chicago that put on puppet operas? I ate there once in the 60s. The food was ... different ... but the opera was nice.
Vaguely. Called the Kungshome(sp?) or something like that? I remember eating and then having to get up and go into a theater for the show, it wasn't like a dinner theater or anything like that.
Well Noni?
I am just WAITING with bated breath for you to refute Ronald Reagan.......(if you dare) :)
OK, he's wrong. The states did not create the federal government, the people did. The Constitution reads, "We the People" not "We the States". And it was the People of the United States that created it, not the people of Virginia and Pennsylvania and South Carolina.
Also, Ronald Reagan knew that the states were sovereign only within the bounds of the Constituiton and only in those areas that the Constition allowed them. Specifically only in those areas not reserved to the United States of forbidden to the states. And deciding the status of a state is a power reserved to the United States.
But.....that isn't what he said.
Viable? Viable in what manner? Too small to have Republican government?
The Confederacy, IMHO, initiated war to force Upper South and Border states to pick a side.
The Confederacy initiated war to repel invaders who intended to maintain forts and collect taxes in their midst. The Founders and their compatriots would not permit the King of England to maintain forts and collect taxes from their people after the Declaration of Indepedence. To deny the right of the Southerners to repel invasion is to deny the concept of sovereignty in government.
They were unwilling to join Lincoln in pissing upon the Declaration of Indepedence's concept of political sovereignty.
This is an example of the logical fallacy of begging the question. All Americans of the time believed in the principles of the D of I. Some claimed it gave states the right to secede. Others strongly disagreed. Asserting a claim does not constitute proof or even evidence.
Some people are disengenuous and some are not. Here's the what the Declaration of Independence has to say on the matter, do you agree with it or not?
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
What do you think the Founders meant, if not secession, when they wrote, "it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them"?
Whenever two groups strongly hold mutually exclusive positions, the conflict can be resolved in only two ways: mutual agreement to accept the ruling of some authority (in our system usually that of a court), or by violence.
You left out the third choice. They can go their seperate ways. Sovereignty is the method by which political disagreements can be exercised with the consent of the governed. The effort to consolidate political power and control is what exacerbates political difference. It provides no room for alternatives. I would prefer 50 Republics tied together in mutual defense and free trade to one consolidated democracy where effort to curry political favor feeds an endless expanse of socialism that my own State's political tendencies reject and could avoid if not for that bastard Lincoln.
Agreed. I would say he was the greatest President of the 20th century and one of the three greatest this country has ever been bless to have - along with Lincoln and Washington.
"State sovereignty is an integral part of the checks and balances designed to restrain one group from destroying the freedom of another." - Reagan
No problem there, so long as "state sovereignty" is understood in the manner that the Founders & Framers, and Reagan understood it - as compared to your Calhounian apostacy. "States' rights" to Reagan is in no way similar to "States' rights" in the slave days, or in the Jim Crow days.
"All of us -- all of us need to be reminded that the Federal Government did not create the states; the states created the Federal Government."
Reagan got that partly right, but it needs to be understood in context. First, you seem to conflate the Union of the States with the form of government. And if you agree that the federal government was designed by the delegates of the people, in convention, and ratified by the people in their respective states, in convention, then at least the last clause of Reagan's quote is reasonable.
If you really want to make news, find me the quotation from Reagan where he laments the outcome of the Civil War and wishes for a return to the slave days of the antebellum south. The President was never one of you.
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