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Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns
TNL ^ | 04/09/2005 | The National Ledger

Posted on 04/10/2005 7:00:25 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone

Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

Casey Nethercott is the leader of a militia group dubbed the Arizona Guard and said during a TV interview broadcast on Friday, "When this Minuteman thing is over, if it doesn't work, we're going to come out here and close the border with machine guns."

KVOA TV-4 in Tucson carried a report on Friday by reporter Nancy Perla that toured the group's compound that sits along the Arizona/Mexico border near Douglas, Arizona. The camera showed two older model American made SUV's, both painted black, that Nethercott claims are "armored vehicles" with "quarter-inch steel in them." Pointing again to the vehicles, Nethercott continued, "You'll get killed without them, here's been so many shootouts out here."

The camera then shows a concrete block wall riddled with bullet holes that Nethercott says came from drug smugglers. The report titled "Mimicman Projects" by KVOA calls them copy cats and says the project could begin on July 4, though Nethercott would release no details.

The Minuteman Project stated through Chris Simcox, who is an organizer for the project, that they don't support a violent solution. "I think anytime you go to that length to take the law into your own hands, you're asking for trouble," Simcox told KVOA.

The armed militia supports the Minuteman Project, but says that if they fail to close the border to illegal border crossers, his group will step in and be heavily armed to do the job.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizonaguard; border; brothersantaanna; control; militia; proillegalthread; vigilantes; violence
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To: Wild Bill 10
Yup, them, too. :)

I was pretty much meaning this forum, though. I hate having aclu, splc supporters here.

181 posted on 04/10/2005 10:34:41 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Marine Inspector; Spiff
The family that owned the company cam forward and identified those that did the installation and both were US Citizens.

That's funny, the article suggested the company would provide no proof of their employees citizenship.

182 posted on 04/10/2005 10:35:16 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Americanexpat
Who cares how long he is in his damn house. It is his house.

Why should he have to use a sledge hammer to destroy his own home because a contractor used illegals? Christ people! get a damn life

I concur. I have nothing against tancredo remodeling his basement or that I would control or tell him which contractor and labor to use, the problem is that according to tancredo's political rhetoric he has no trouble telling me.

183 posted on 04/10/2005 10:35:21 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane; Americanexpat

"the problem is that according to tancredo's political rhetoric he has no trouble telling me."

The entire minuteman movement seems to be built on a house of hypocracy. That's the part that really turns me off. It also takes away from any serious policy discussion involving border issues, or the President's plan to fundamentally address the issue with immigration reform.


184 posted on 04/10/2005 10:37:39 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

An international incident? Mexican troops firing on the border patrol isn't already an international incident? You're an idiot.


185 posted on 04/10/2005 10:39:10 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: ClintonBeGone
The entire minuteman movement seems to be built on a house of hypocracy. That's the part that really turns me off. It also takes away from any serious policy discussion involving border issues, or the President's plan to fundamentally address the issue with immigration reform

"Gotta keep the hate flowing, Luke".

Those dollars to tancredo's PAC are to important.

186 posted on 04/10/2005 10:40:51 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: All
"Gotta keep the hate flowing, Luke"

Oh yeah, before the minutemen supporters go into a hillary like rage, screaming "race baiter" and demanding my immediate banning, the above is meant as a political allegory in modern America as what has been portrayed in a popular motion picture series, "Star Wars".

187 posted on 04/10/2005 10:46:45 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Those dollars to tancredo's PAC are to important.

Can you imagine how agitated they'll be during his stunningly poor presidential effort? It will be amusing then to watch who they blame. I don't know if Colorado law requires it, but I doubt Tancredo has the, um, pelotas, to give up his congressional seat to run for El Presidente. I'm sure he'll be one of those 6 month wonders who suddenly decides to spend more time with his family.

188 posted on 04/10/2005 10:55:09 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: agitator
You're an idiot.

Why the hate filled invectives?

189 posted on 04/10/2005 10:57:16 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: infocats
The Minuteman project & the "Border militia" are two entirely different groups of people . I also wouldn't be surprised if some of the "Border militia" are in fact agent provocateurs from such outfits as stormfront or from the various leftists groups.
190 posted on 04/10/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Can you imagine how agitated they'll be during his stunningly poor presidential effort? It will be amusing then to watch who they blame. I don't know if Colorado law requires it, but I doubt Tancredo has the, um, pelotas, to give up his congressional seat to run for El Presidente. I'm sure he'll be one of those 6 month wonders who suddenly decides to spend more time with his family

They'll blame their own made up "country club" Republicans, while being silent about hillary, who BTW, has been silent about the minutemen.

Also where is the neo-Joan of Arc(hillary) of the build a damn wall now crowd.

A question, hillary on the border supporting the minutemen, Bueller, Bueller, anyone?

JMO, she is probably telling her eunuchs in her basement headquarters to STFU on FR about immigration is my guess.

191 posted on 04/10/2005 11:15:32 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Wild Bill 10
SO WHAT
who cares what "people say"
our borders are being overrun, by criminals.
We have 8 million ILLEGALS in our country now and growing.

I agree. Illegal immigration is a huge problem. But the notion that it can be solved by having Tom Tancredo smash the work in his basement with a sledgehammer is nonsense on stilts.

192 posted on 04/10/2005 11:27:07 AM PDT by Dave Olson
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To: Dave Olson
I agree. Illegal immigration is a huge problem.

How would you solve it?

193 posted on 04/10/2005 11:28:40 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: ClintonBeGone
Coming up on 200.

Bump

194 posted on 04/10/2005 11:30:36 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Dave Olson
I agree. Illegal immigration is a huge problem. But the notion that it can be solved by having Tom Tancredo smash the work in his basement with a sledgehammer is nonsense on stilts

Uh Dave I brought that option up and I think you are mischaracterizing my words with your above.

I was basically stating that if tancredo was true to his rhetoric he would wield the sledgehammer to his basement done by illegal(impure) labor, but he won't, and I don't blame him, it costs money to redo a basement, especially one with an overhead projector and terraced seating.

195 posted on 04/10/2005 11:33:47 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: ClintonBeGone
My agenda is to support President Bush's immigration reforms.

Yeah, right. Your agenda is to support your proto-anarchist brother, Vicente Fox in tearing down US sovereign control of its borders and accomplishing the de facto annexation of the border states into Mexico. The fact that Bush seems to be willing to play patsy to that agenda is just bonus for you and your buddies in El Pueblo and La Raza.

Go peddle your lies to someone else, troll.

196 posted on 04/10/2005 11:34:17 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Dave Olson; All
Tancredo and the Minutemen and providing a valuable service in that they are forcing a sleepy public and reluctant goverment to stir themselves and face up to some very real problems with our immigration laws and practices.

To all of Tancredo's critics, I say : If you don't like Tancredo's approach, come up with something better and actually do something about it. The status quo doesn't cut it.

197 posted on 04/10/2005 11:35:57 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: ClintonBeGone
These MMK's are really one step away from going postal.

The Minuteman Project stated through Chris Simcox, who is an organizer for the project, that they don't support a violent solution. "I think anytime you go to that length to take the law into your own hands, you're asking for trouble," Simcox told KVOA.

Maybe you should take a class in reading comprehension...

198 posted on 04/10/2005 11:40:54 AM PDT by in the Arena (Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 110.)
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To: infocats
Imagine that! And I thought they (the militia) said they were just going to inform the Boarder Patrol about illegal entrants.

These people are a totally different group than the Minutemen.

Your statement is analogous to comparing a Neighborhood Watch group watching out for Bloods gang member activity in the neighborhood to Crips gang members threatening lethal force against the same Bloods gang members.

I see you are new here.

Do you have a disinformation propaganda agenda or are you simply ignorant?

199 posted on 04/10/2005 11:42:27 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: NCSteve
Yeah, right. Your agenda is to support your proto-anarchist brother, Vicente Fox in tearing down US sovereign control of its borders and accomplishing the de facto annexation of the border states into Mexico

I don't speak for CBB or anyone else, but I get tired of this Jorge Bush, BS.

Your above paranoid and control freakish screed in spirit, IMO, could have been stated by the communists in Poland, when John Paul II visited his homeland of Poland back in 1979.

Oh BTW, the commusnist were all for walls.

200 posted on 04/10/2005 11:44:04 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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