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JUST A MINUTE Minutemen Project dangerous but puts focus on immigration policy
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 7, 2005, 8:26PM | Editorial

Posted on 04/09/2005 7:03:51 AM PDT by harrowup

A Houstonian armed to the teeth stands atop his pickup truck in the Arizona desert. He wishes to deter illegal immigrants from Mexico, but he and his confederates will fail. Border Patrol officials said some civilian observers set off motion detectors, complicating rather than aiding the agency's mission.

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KEYWORDS: adesertkook; aliens; illegalentry; migrantworkers; minutemanproject; tancretoids; vigilantes
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To: harrowup
I had originally thought that Spiff was at least a level headed honest observer. I was wrong. Spiff? This is only a courtesy ping since I am confirming that unless you change your tone with me you are going to be ignored.

I'm not changing anything. I never called you a "liar", I simply said that you had propagated certain lies. I countered those lies with the truth. If that makes me a big meany, then tough. I'm here on the ground and I know far more about the situation here than you ever will. I can't let you and your buddies get away, unchallenged, with spreading lies about and disparaging this worthy effort here. You can disagree with it all you want, but can you do it using logic, reason, and facts and not mistruths, namecalling, racebaiting, and flamebait?

121 posted on 04/09/2005 5:58:23 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: harrowup
No question about it. I agree. I just don't like people pretending to be your friendly neighborhood watch stomping around causing a ruckus.

You don't live here, so you don't have a right to pretend that you're being annoyed by the neighborhood watch causing a "ruckus". In fact, the MMP volunteers are regularly met with horn honks, thumbs up, and Cochise County residents like to stop by and give them words of support. Some residents bring them food and water and everyone I've talked to, my neighbors and such (except for the dope-smoking ACLU "legal defenders") are thrilled with the presence of the Minuteman Project. The locals are happy with their presence and the results they've achieved so far. So, don't pretend that you know what you're talking about.

I know what I'm talking about. A number of observation posts are within a mile of my house. I've seen what I'm telling you about with my own eyes. I've talked to my neighbors and local residents and I'm reporting my direct observations.

122 posted on 04/09/2005 6:04:12 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff

Michelle Malkin subbed for John Kasich on Heartland tonight. She had a pro guy and a con guy on. She gave the guy who was anti Minutemen a hard time. (He was really supporting illegal immigration.)


123 posted on 04/09/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: Spiff
I do admire your persistence with harrowup, I really do. Very commendable.

But what did you expect from an ACLU democrat for God's sake?

124 posted on 04/09/2005 6:08:42 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
I do admire your persistence with harrowup, I really do. Very commendable. But what did you expect from an ACLU democrat for God's sake?

Yes, I just read that further up in the thread. I think it speaks volumes that people like Dane and ClintonBeGone are allying with an ACLU Democrat to attack patriotic Americans. It also explains harrowup's tactics quite a bit as it is the typical leftist method to lie, obfuscate, and throw the race card whenever you have no other argument.

125 posted on 04/09/2005 6:19:35 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff
I know what I'm talking about. A number of observation posts are within a mile of my house. I've seen what I'm telling you about with my own eyes. I've talked to my neighbors and local residents and I'm reporting my direct observations.

That's why your posts carry far more weight than those of some jerk who gets his informaion from CNN.

126 posted on 04/09/2005 6:23:26 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Spiff
"I think it speaks volumes that people like Dane and ClintonBeGone are allying with an ACLU Democrat to attack patriotic Americans."

Right out of the Rat playbook.

127 posted on 04/09/2005 6:25:28 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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Comment #128 Removed by Moderator

To: Elmer Piddlestone

Who?


129 posted on 04/09/2005 6:44:06 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Czar
On March 26th, Harrowup admitted on TheLibertyPost.org that he/she is a Democrat and is on Free Republic to disrupt.

"I do it because I'm a Democrat and I love beating up on Republicans and Libertarians and especially conservatives... and because JR won't let me do it there."

harrowup posted on 2005-03-26 23:00:58 ET

Given this evidence, wouldn't agree that it is time for harrowup to receive a long overdue zot? We've got good people like jackelopebreeder (an IT professional who is the vice president of a local Republican Club) and idratherbepainting (a grandmother and artist who is forced to carry a handgun to take the granddaughter she is raising to the bus stop) who have been banned for no good reason at all yet an admitted ACLU Democrat troll is allowed to disrupt Free Republic with impunity. Something just is not right here. Somebody should take this up with the management.
130 posted on 04/09/2005 6:44:54 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Czar
More evidence from LP:

Sometimes 'guilt by association' is too often a friend of mine and I will have to take a closer look before I continue my jihad.

harrowup posted on 2005-03-27 00:18:25 ET


131 posted on 04/09/2005 6:50:11 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff
I agree with you. Completely.

If the others aren't reinstated, then it's only fair that this guy (harrowup) should be tossed out on his ACLU Democrat rump.

Free Republic holds itself out as a conservative site. Why, in heavens name, would an admitted disrupter be allowed to remain?

Makes no sense. None.

132 posted on 04/09/2005 6:50:41 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Spiff
You are a curious specimen indeed. You accuse me of calling someone a bitch which I did not, and give yourself a reward for not reporting me to the authorities for my non-obscenity and then 'correct' my lies and still insist that you have not called me a liar.

You remind me of somebody the other day who called for shooting the migrants dead, and anyone who supports them...shooting them and us dead, he wrote. He then insisted that he said nothing about murder.

If you and he truly believe you can get away with that kind of mind-boggling rabble rousing nonsense then surely you can never expect any rational objective human to believe a damn thing you have to say about anything, anywhere at any time.

In short, I told you earlier that I would no longer bother with your nonsense since it was clear you were not credible. Now you have forced me to remind you again that I have no interest in listening to the mewlings of an man of little character.

133 posted on 04/09/2005 6:56:27 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Spiff
admitted on LP ... is on Free Republic to disrupt.

... and because JR won't let me do it there."

This is probably going right over your head but not only have you deliberately lied, you don't know why...

It is to laugh.

You are free to summon all of your zotters at will.

134 posted on 04/09/2005 7:04:15 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Czar
Good night boys.

If you cannot stay on topic I shall have to ask you to leave. Thank you for your interest and attempt to insult. I only regret that Clinton be gone, Ben Ficklin and others have to be tarred with my feathers since they are pretty good conservatives to my reckoning.

I heard the other day that some Democrats actually lit a candle for the Pope and one of them was seen saluting an American flag...geesh.

135 posted on 04/09/2005 7:08:53 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup
If you and he truly believe you can get away with that kind of mind-boggling rabble rousing nonsense then surely you can never expect any rational objective human to believe a damn thing you have to say about anything, anywhere at any time. In short, I told you earlier that I would no longer bother with your nonsense since it was clear you were not credible. Now you have forced me to remind you again that I have no interest in listening to the mewlings of an man of little character.

You have few friends here. Fewer now that you have been exposed as an ACLU Democrat on a "jihad" against Republicans and conservatives.

I don't care what you think. I don't care what any ACLU Democrat thinks. You are the scum of the earth - an enemy of America. I have no time for "debate" with a person like you as it serves no purpose except to stroke your twisted ego. I will counter your lies and slander as they cannot go unchallenged - that is until someone sees fit to remove a troll like you from this good forum.

136 posted on 04/09/2005 7:21:21 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: harrowup
If you cannot stay on topic I shall have to ask you to leave.

You mean that we're not going to allow you to play your leftist lie and slander game anymore which is your "topic". And you can't ask me to leave. This is not your forum.

I only regret that Clinton be gone, Ben Ficklin and others have to be tarred with my feathers since they are pretty good conservatives to my reckoning.

You mean that they have unwittingly served the purposes of an ACLU Democrat on a "jihad" to attack conservative Republicans on various conservative forums around the Internet.

137 posted on 04/09/2005 7:30:23 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: harrowup
This is probably going right over your head but not only have you deliberately lied, you don't know why...

How have I lied? In your own words you admitted to be a Democrat, an ACLU supporter, and on a "jihad" to "beat up" conservatives and Republicans.

138 posted on 04/09/2005 7:32:08 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff
How have I lied?

You claim I admitted at LP that I am on Free Republic to disrupt.

That is a lie.

Stop before you explode.

139 posted on 04/09/2005 7:40:23 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Spiff; harrowup
You have few friends here. Fewer now that you have been exposed as an ACLU Democrat on a "jihad" against Republicans and conservatives.

Rather funny you, of all people, going after Harrowup for his political affiliation, when you and your group of vigilantes are the most disloyal to our President and Commander in Chief. Attacking him at every opportunity, like some liberal democrat operative. You really should be ashamed.

140 posted on 04/09/2005 8:34:06 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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