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To: DarkWaters
Your understanding of how Marxism/Leninism got it's way in the world is inconsistent with the facts.

Even the Soviet Politburo knew that it had to hire and pay these guys like they were employees.

Ideology only goes so far you know.

267 posted on 04/08/2005 5:06:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Your understanding of how Marxism/Leninism got it's way in the world is inconsistent with the facts.

And what facts are those?

Even the Soviet Politburo knew that it had to hire and pay these guys like they were employees.

Maybe in the Soviet Union since many could see the fruits of their labor(no wonder why force and oppression where the main staples of the state but then again there were also incentives as well), but the professors at the universities in various countries? I don't think so. Many of these people had grand visions of Utopia or just people seeking power. Marxism/Leninism was the path to that Utopia or power for most of them. They support each other like they are a click.

Ideology only goes so far you know.

I don't view Marxism/Leninism as ideological. If it was it would never had gone very far. Violence is the rule in order to achieve it. At its very core is criminality. It is devoid of what we in the west would call reason and morality. It is something governed more by passions than anything else which makes the situation rather complex. It is basically a blue print for kleptocracy which I mentioned before. It looks for any opportunity and exploits it(ideology, stirring the peoples passions, and violence are its trademarks). It is a system of power unlike an other and a polar opposite to our Western foundation.
268 posted on 04/08/2005 7:10:40 PM PDT by DarkWaters
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